I've skipped a lot, skimmed a bit, and now I have Anne of Green Gables in my mind demanding puffed sleeves.

What if a woman's religion demands she wears sleeves, like, say, the strict orthodox Jewish rules for girls' clothes? It mustn't be impossible to get them, no matter what the fashion is, right?

Oh, and a completely unrelated question - what do people mean when they say "modern"? This question is too vast for me to try to Google the answer, and in fact, I'm interested in what y'all think, since you're way more educated with words than I am.

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I actually just did an internal SQUEE!

Me too!]

I'm glad I wanted a strapless dress -- I had no idea sleeves were so difficult to come by. How odd.

Hey folks. I'm waiting for my flight back to Los Angeles. Got to see some of the NYistas on Monday night and also Kristin.

I have also caught a cold, so beyond that I didn't do too much beyond teach my class. The class did go well, and IATSE is talking about me teaching another one in the spring, so it looks like yet another trip to NYC.

Also, The Library Hotel is very nice.

Ooh, Margaret's is nice. I liked Princess Anne's wedding gown, too.

Nilly, there are special dressmakers who cater to people wanting "modest wedding gowns"; if you Google, you'll find lots. They seem mostly to be catering to Mormons, but I'm sure Orthodox women have similar options.

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Oh, I really like pricess margaret's dress.

My dress has wide straps, but not sleeves.

Details! Are you getting one made like that incredible one you linked to? Veil? Bling?

"Modern", to me, mostly means 20th century, though in some moods it just means post-Industrial Revolution. I use it very very vaguely, so I'm probably no help.

There are bridal shops that specialize in modest dresses for religious girls. I looked at some of them - most of the ones in California were geared towards Catholics and the dresses were not my taste. Not that those two things have anything to do with one another. I eventually found my long-sleeved dress in a "normal" shop that happened to have a large and varied selection. They're out there, but they aren't featured. I assumed it was a fashion thing that I wasn't following, or possibly seasonal.

The NHL has decided to pine for the fjords this season. [link]

Margaret's dress is similar to the dress I've coveted most: Julie Andrews' in Sound of Music. [link]

Betsy, the funny thing is, I (for example) wouldn't be able to wear practically any of the dresses in your link (neckline too open, sleeves too short, the dress too tight). And it's this way in Israel, too.

What most of my friends do (who don't have dresses made for them from scratch) is making alterations - adding some light material to lengthen sleeves or close up necklines, stuff like that. Or what other have described here - adding a top part over an already existing dress (which is what my roommate will wear in her in-three-weeks-minus-a-day wedding).

Thanks, -t.