Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - Feb 16, 2005 9:02:39 am PST #8155 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

What -t Said. Bear in mind that until recently most churches wouldn't *allow* strapless wedding dresses, so there are several decades' (centuries'!) worth of evidence to prove that sleeves work just fine. My mother's wedding gown, which I wore, had cap sleeves. Princess Grace's wedding gown had long tight sleeves.

As a friend of mine pointed out years ago, "Oh, you can't get that any more" often means either "I can't be bothered to check the inventory" or "Our store doesn't carry that and I don't want you to shop someplace else."


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2005 9:04:36 am PST #8156 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What JZ was talking about vis-a-vis Jon's theory provided the basis for Michael Crichton's THE TERMINAL MAN. While Crichton science is pretty questionable in the long haul, he usually takes his premises from something pretty rooted in fact. In this case, doctors tried to treat a man subject to those violent epileptic fits by implanting stimulators in his brain to trigger his pleasure centers and calm him down. It backfired because his brain enjoyed the stimulation so much it started triggering non-stop seizures, turning him into psychotic murderer.

In other words, I like the theory.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2005 9:04:45 am PST #8157 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was it brilliant? (How could it not be? If you can manage coherent and thoughtful for a 5 a.m. radio interview, 8:40 should be a breeze.)

I think I was more enthusiastic than witty, but it went okay. I think joe boucher heard me. So it wasn't a tree falling in the forest.


DXMachina - Feb 16, 2005 9:06:12 am PST #8158 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I tuned in too late.


DavidS - Feb 16, 2005 9:08:20 am PST #8159 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I tuned in too late.

Eh. I have to say, the novelty has worn off a little. Still, we contributed books to the fund drive and I got to pimp James Booker and Bo Diddley so that's nice.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 16, 2005 9:10:05 am PST #8160 of 10002
What is even happening?

I had long sleeves, and they weren't made of tulle or illusion. They were reembroidered alencon lace on shantung silk, and they were fine, well fitted, and not restrictive.


Susan W. - Feb 16, 2005 9:13:25 am PST #8161 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

My dress was sleeveless but not strapless. I also had an early September wedding.

I haven't looked at a bridal magazine since 1999, so I've been a little mystified by the universality of strapless dresses at all the weddings I've coordinated over the last year or so, even at winter weddings. I felt sorry for the bride at the last one, when she just had this tiny inadequate wrap over it as she exited the church into the freezing rain. But it sounds like that's just what's in the stores these days.


P.M. Marc - Feb 16, 2005 9:16:26 am PST #8162 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, in '99, it was pretty easy to find sleeves. Both my BF and I had sleeves, and while my dress was made for me, her dress was purchased at a swank dress place.

The lack of sleeves these days makes me sad. Women built like me shouldn't have to go without, damn it.


amych - Feb 16, 2005 9:22:04 am PST #8163 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

My dress has wide straps, but not sleeves. I avoided the whole bridal-shopping gig, but from what I keep hearing, it's nothing but strapless in the conspiracy industry anymore. Basically, it's a sign of lazy designers. (Also, a whole lot of purely-speculative-just-looking going on, no?)


Steph L. - Feb 16, 2005 9:23:00 am PST #8164 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

My dress has wide straps, but not sleeves.

I actually just did an internal SQUEE! at the idea that AMYCH HAS A WEDDING DRESS!!!!!!

Not really sure why that pinged me in the way it did, but there you have it.