Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Feb 12, 2005 11:35:33 am PST #6738 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I told you I never recover from the name changes. Oh well, I know nothing about anybody I guess, especially Steph.

Pish tosh! You know my salary, my rent, and my debt. That's more than my family and meatspace friends know.

Also, I'm a Cancer on the cusp of Gemini, my favorite color is red, and when I grow up, I'm going to Bovine University!


Sheryl - Feb 12, 2005 11:36:42 am PST #6739 of 10002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday Maria and Kristin!

Stupid sinuses are acting up. It probably doesn't help that I ran out of Rhinocort a couple days ago, and have no refills on that prescription. Ah, well.


DXMachina - Feb 12, 2005 11:36:49 am PST #6740 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

t Considers nicknaming Teppy "TMI"...


Steph L. - Feb 12, 2005 11:39:22 am PST #6741 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

t Considers nicknaming Teppy "TMI"...

My favorite movie is "Bull Durham," I wear a size 8.5 shoe, and I secretly believe that poor spoken grammar is a deliberate choice on the part of the speaker.


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2005 11:41:03 am PST #6742 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is it a forgivable deliberate choice?


Steph L. - Feb 12, 2005 11:58:28 am PST #6743 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Is it a forgivable deliberate choice?

It depends on whether or not their pattern of speech is poor grammar all or most of the time (not so forgivable), or if it's a deliberate departure from the norm, a wink and a nod to those who know that you know the difference between "see" and "seen" and when to use which (forgivable and all too often indulged in by me).


§ ita § - Feb 12, 2005 12:08:52 pm PST #6744 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How much leeway do you give dialect?


Narrator - Feb 12, 2005 12:24:05 pm PST #6745 of 10002
The evil is this way?

Narrator, I don't think it's a filtered entry, because I can see it. Try again: [link]

It's telling me I'm not logged in. I think you have to be a livejournal person to see that. I'm not.

If it still doesn't work, the tat reads: You bleed just to know your (sic) alive.

Ah. Although, maybe she just has one of those alives that only appears when it smells blood. Or something.


DCJensen - Feb 12, 2005 12:29:35 pm PST #6746 of 10002
All is well that ends in pizza.

"Due to the large amount of dumb fucks wondering around these days..."

Wondering?

Being a dumb f**K means never having to be sure about..."stuff." ?


Steph L. - Feb 12, 2005 12:48:43 pm PST #6747 of 10002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

How much leeway do you give dialect?

A fair amount. (Though as I type this, I'm realizing that some dialect falls in my category of "bad grammar.")

I'm aware that I'm too biased about this, because I was raised in a household where my Mom would point out my Dad's bad grammar (of which there is a lot), and so I was always conscious of how I spoke.

I therefore tend to think that, what with school and TV/movies and interacting with other people, proper spoken grammar should not be that difficult to absorb. (And I'm referring mostly to things like "I been to the store, and I seen my grandpa there." Misuses like that. Also that "brung" and "irregardless" are not words, damn it.)

It's been pointed out to me by people with less narrow minds than mine that kids pick up their spoken grammar more from their living environment than from anything else, including school and the flickering blue parent. (I think I ascribe too much influence to TV.) And so if kids hear "I seen it" from their parents, they're going to pick it up, school be damned.

Which bugs, big time.