I fed off a flowerperson, and I spent the next six hours watchin' my hand move.

Spike ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amych - Feb 11, 2005 2:43:41 pm PST #6598 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Or part Siamese. They are very chatty and gossipy and never shut up.

Dude, tell me about it.

(Shut UP, Lucy! JZ is talking now!)


Anne W. - Feb 11, 2005 2:45:10 pm PST #6599 of 10002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Jeeves didn't start out chatty, but he's become more vocal as he's gotten older, especially in terms of trying to give me commands. From an early age, though, he always liked to sit in acoustically interesting places and sing scales.


Thomash - Feb 11, 2005 2:45:42 pm PST #6600 of 10002
I have a plan.

I skipped quite a bit today, so I might have missed if anybody announced that Arthur Miller died.


JZ - Feb 11, 2005 2:47:45 pm PST #6601 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Dude, tell me about it.

(Shut UP, Lucy! JZ is talking now!)

Heh. Despite his frequent irritation with cat persons, Hec does a spectacularly funny and affectionate impersonation of my former cat, the endlessly chatty Matilda. It's incidentally also a spectacularly funny and affectionate impersonation of Erin G if she lived with her gay brother and me and wore a fur coat all the time.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 2:50:55 pm PST #6602 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Stephanie Zacharek in Salon was just saying that her ass looks like it was plucked from God's personal peach orchard.

It's okay.

Her face is even less special.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 3:02:44 pm PST #6603 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can you go to jail for merely being stupid?

According to prosecutors, Sizemore had been caught once before trying to use a similar device, sold over the Internet under the brand name the Whizzinator, and had failed drug tests on at least five occasions.

But sometimes, it's for the good of society.

She grabbed him by the genitals, tearing off his left testicle, then hid it in her mouth before a friend of Jones handed it back to him saying "that's yours."

Is it bad that I didn't see the word "wife" the first few times round? I thought things might have gone a bit too far.

Stevie Wonder's Wife Debuts Clothing Line


flea - Feb 11, 2005 3:04:08 pm PST #6604 of 10002
information libertarian

amych, I am sure you will get a COLA this year. The thing is, if you leave the job market for 5 or 10 years, no matter what you are doing, you almost never hit the career salary high you would have had. In many cases, your skills are outdated or people are suspicious of the gap in employment and you end up with a lower salary than you had when you left.

Did I mention we paid more than $10K in child care this year? It fucking kills me. O for a socialist state.


DavidS - Feb 11, 2005 3:05:11 pm PST #6605 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She hid the testicle in her mouth. I just...

I especially loved the Reuters headline: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!


Topic!Cindy - Feb 11, 2005 3:05:58 pm PST #6606 of 10002
What is even happening?

the second spouse's job actually cost the family money, when everything was taken into consideration (higher tax bracket, take out food, dry cleaning, commuting costs, baby sitting costs, workplace gifts and parties, lunches out)

Doesn't that really depend on the second spouse? Workplace gifts and parties, lunches out and take out food, and dry cleaning are by no means mandatory.

Oh yeah. That's one of the reasons I mentioned sitting down with an accountant to take a look at what's left of the check, after all the work related expenses are considered. It would vary from family to family, and with income, with how much over salary #1 is required to meet expenses, and also with the reasons why people are working.

YOU CANT AVOID THE GIRLSCOUT COOKIE MAFIA!

I accidentally avoided them, this year. I didn't mean to though, and now I am sad, and will not have Thin Mints and Peanut Butter Patties. Very sad.

Jilli, that 'made with real Girl Scouts' line would have made me buy the girl out. That's an unfair use of cuteness.

People who do that math always forget to take into effect retirement for the second spouse, in particular your salary basis for Social Security and your 401(K). Not to mention forgetting to take into effect that salaries normally compound, getting a little higher each year, so losing (for example) 5 years of salary raises can make a significant dent in your lifetime income.
There are all kinds of considerations, which is why you talk to an accountant (unless you're an actuary or married to one).

Absolutely. Working with a new baby is expensive. I just get frustrated when people say that therefore it's a slam-dunk to stay home. Staying home with a new baby is also expensive.

For the record, I wasn't saying anything of the kind, or anything more than it's not a bad idea to talk with an accountant, if one is in your future, anyhow. It's not a slam-dunk by any means. First of all, it's not what some people want to do. Secondly, usually it's not going to be a case of work costing you money--that was an extreme case that made good TV. But sometimes, it's a case of you both working outside the home, 40+ hours a week each, for a net gain that isn't financially worth it to you.

Hrrmph. I wear black to work every day, and nobody quotes the Addams Family or sells me Thin Mints!

When Julia sells them next year (Daisies don't sell them apparently, which is why I missed out--I was waiting for her to get the selling kit), I will send you some for free, and a picture of her in her Vampyrella costume from last year.


Kat - Feb 11, 2005 3:06:42 pm PST #6607 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Layla is the cutest dog under 40 lbs that I've ever seen. She's like a little mini BearDog without the crabbiness.