This isn't a come-on. I'm in a very serious relationship with a landscape architect.

Oliver ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 1:13:54 pm PST #6522 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We can't move.

No, no you can't. Damn.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 1:14:00 pm PST #6523 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, and monkey pants!


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 1:14:33 pm PST #6524 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

beth is a Mainer!

Gives beth the secret handshake.


Stephanie - Feb 11, 2005 1:15:02 pm PST #6525 of 10002
Trust my rage

I may email you later, if that's okay?

Please do. My parents are pretty proud of their house because my mom ( a 4th grade teacher) designed it and they really worked hard to keep costs down. They would love to share their experiences and answer any questions.


DavidS - Feb 11, 2005 1:16:42 pm PST #6526 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Which is what's so unconscionably wrong about "paycheck-cashing" businesses. They take desperate people and make them much, much more desperate.

I'd say about 60% of the bank accounts I saw were paycheck to paycheck. Another chunk (maybe 25%?) - were one to two paychecks ahead. The last little chunk of about 15% would be well ahead.

Of course, people that really have a lot of money don't keep it in a bank account. It's out working for them, making them more money. Huey Lewis had six figures in his money market account, though.

But I think that's a fairly accurate snap shot of "working class" (whatever that means in America) finances. At least in California.


Kristen - Feb 11, 2005 1:16:46 pm PST #6527 of 10002

we pay $869 for our smallish 2-bd duplexed house with fenced backyard and half a garage and that is a steal. We can't move.

Damn. That is impressive.


Burrell - Feb 11, 2005 1:17:14 pm PST #6528 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Burrell, won't Frances's costs be going down as she gets older, or have they already done that?

Yes, but not enough to offset his care. Next month she'll transition to Toddlers and her care will go from $595 to $495. But then once he begins daycare in the Fall, we'll be paying $1095 for the both of them. Plus the mortgage. Ouch.


Steph L. - Feb 11, 2005 1:17:21 pm PST #6529 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

What's a straw bale house? I'm really intrigued, and I'm assuming it's not something that would be susceptible to a Big Bad Wolf weather front.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 11, 2005 1:17:26 pm PST #6530 of 10002
What is even happening?

Buffista Monkeypants has monkey pants. I love it!

Nonian, a family member was living in SoCal and working for the USPS. He got transferred to Georgia, and felt like a millionaire, because he was no longer so house poor. The thing is, there is nothing spectacular about our house. It needs a new roof, and lots of cosmetics, we've already put in a new boiler, and new electric, and it's the second we've owned, so we put down way way more than the twenty percent. The housing costs here are outrageous.

If I were in Congress, there would be a law saying that (A) all banks must cash paychecks they issue and (B) a certain sort of minimum account, WITH DEPOSIT PRIVILEGES, must be available to all comers.

Congress? Screw that. You'd have to deal with all the bureaucracy and backroom deals.

Betsy for KING!


lori - Feb 11, 2005 1:18:19 pm PST #6531 of 10002

I could take a really great guess. But I wont.

I figured that you would probably have a good clue, and I got no problem with that.

However, if you do move, I'm totally moving in and pretending they were leasing to me all along.

Our clueless landlady might not even notice.

Burrell, yeah, now you see why I haven't moved in, shit, almost 10 years!