Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JZ - Feb 11, 2005 12:21:56 pm PST #6449 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

My friends and I (and now Hec and I) wobble back and forth between the cheap nights at each other's homes and the occasional splurgy meal. I know very, very few people (that I'm not related to, which would be a whole other set of posts) who have had consistent, steady income growth over the last decade; mostly, myself included, incomes have fitfully bounced up and plummeted down at bizarrely random times.

Almost everyone I know has either treated me to nice things I couldn't afford or been treated likewise by me, or more likely both. None of us have any real idea what we owe each other or who's in whose debt, and none of us worry that much about it. Which is a huge relief, and very beneficial to our collective sanity.


Allyson - Feb 11, 2005 12:22:35 pm PST #6450 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I also envy Steph's rent.

You know, I took pics of my purple wall and new curtain.

Didn't post them because I live in a box, which is sort of more than embarassing sometimes.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 11, 2005 12:24:29 pm PST #6451 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

We can never, ever, ever retire.

Betsy, are you committed to that particular house after the kids leave the nest? The move my folks made to a cute one-story over Dad's mobility issues had the pleasant side effect of knocking about 20% off their monthly expenses.


Jesse - Feb 11, 2005 12:24:55 pm PST #6452 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, Porn in teen magazines!


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 12:24:57 pm PST #6453 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Gah. This is so fucking self-indulgent of me, but I can't resist. I almost did it first, and that would have come off better, but oh well.

Salary: $11K
Rent: $0 ($285 in utilities)
Debt: $450

If you count the household, double the salary. Oh, and if you count the tax check coming due, add another $1000 to the debt. Actually that's the fun part of being your own company -- our gender salaries are absolutely equitable. And 50% of the company's executives are a minority! Shouldn't I get an award?

In 2001, we were making $100K. Had we not stepped away in October, we would have both been unemployed immediately that year.

So, anyway, we're thinking pretty hard about moving, possibly building (straw bale!) so we'll need to up our salaries by about a grand a month. But that's a lotta work, so we'll see.


Lilty Cash - Feb 11, 2005 12:25:53 pm PST #6454 of 10002
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."

Hey, Lilty Cash -- are you named after the almighty buck?

Actually, it's a Wonderfalls reference. When I found the Buffistas, I just thought up something that made me giggle. I didn't actually imagine I'd stick around. I've been thinking I may change it to just Lilty, though. Or something more related to my own name or something and not so completely random. But I've found myself sort of endeared to it.


§ ita § - Feb 11, 2005 12:27:00 pm PST #6455 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Porn in teen magazines!

"Result of human error," they say? Someone's getting their ass fired.


Liese S. - Feb 11, 2005 12:28:00 pm PST #6456 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

About the friends thing, well, clearly it's an issue for us, and probably worse because if our friends are well off, they're probably supporters of ours, which makes things awkward anyway. So they almost always pick up the tab for us, which makes us feel skeevy, but then if we try to pay, they feel like, are we splurging their support money by taking all our friends out, or what?

We do have one wealthy couple who are close friends who let us pay as often as they pay for us. It's just that we pay at the pizza joint, and they pay at the $30 a plate breakfast buffet.


Lyra Jane - Feb 11, 2005 12:29:39 pm PST #6457 of 10002
Up with the sun

Rent: $340

I want to know where and how Lilty lives.


Allyson - Feb 11, 2005 12:29:56 pm PST #6458 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You know, I used to do layout and design for a weekly trade paper for a living, and I can't figure out how that mistake could possibly happen unless someone copied the URL to send someone else, forgot, and pasted that one by mistake. And then no one checked the copy. Which, stupid. It should never have made it out of the office.