Let me guess. We're in a hurry.

Inara ,'Serenity'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Feb 08, 2005 11:22:50 am PST #5139 of 10002
Punishingly Intricate

The Fluevogs I want on sale! and yet, still to expensive.

mmm I have those but black with purple.


tommyrot - Feb 08, 2005 11:22:54 am PST #5140 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How does this solve it? You can only ask one question. I feel like I'm missing something. I'd still ask him to open the door.

Well, if you asked the liar, he'd tell you the wrong door. But if you asked him the hypothetical question of what would he say if you asked him, he'd lie about the lie he'd tell if you asked him directly.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 08, 2005 11:23:53 am PST #5141 of 10002
What is even happening?

But how do you know if you're asking the liar or the truth teller?


tommyrot - Feb 08, 2005 11:25:48 am PST #5142 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But how do you know if you're asking the liar or the truth teller?

You don't, but you don't need to. The truth teller would tell you the truth if you asked him directly or if you asked him what would he say if you asked him. And by asking about asking, the liar's answer would be the truth too.


DXMachina - Feb 08, 2005 11:26:39 am PST #5143 of 10002
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

If you ask the truth teller which door the liar would choose, he'll point to the incorrect door. If you ask the liar which door the truth teller would choose, he'll also point to the incorrect door (he's lying). So you just go out the other door.


Kat - Feb 08, 2005 11:26:44 am PST #5144 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

lisah, are they comfortable? Cause these are the other pair that I like.


Topic!Cindy - Feb 08, 2005 11:26:46 am PST #5145 of 10002
What is even happening?

And by asking about asking, the liar's answer would be the truth too.
Oh, sorry. Gotcha. I'd still make him walk out, first.


§ ita § - Feb 08, 2005 11:26:58 am PST #5146 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Asking A what B would say would also work -- just go through the other door.


Fred Pete - Feb 08, 2005 11:28:06 am PST #5147 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Cindy, I don't think it matters. The truth-teller would honestly tell you the correct door, and would honestly tell you that s/he would tell you the correct door. The liar would dishonestly tell you the wrong door, and would lie about which door s/he would tell you.

If that makes sense.


bon bon - Feb 08, 2005 11:29:00 am PST #5148 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I had quiche and mac & cheese. They weren't very good today. But I generally eat that on Tuesdays.