All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Feb 07, 2005 8:16:06 am PST #4562 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I was just thinking - years ago when I was first working in computers (for money) I used to tell myself that I wasn't a computer geek. I'd say things like, "A real computer geek works in hexidecimal," or, "A real computer geek gets excited by an OS," or (back when I was only doing Access stuff), "a real computer geek uses SQL."

Now all those things can describe me.


DavidS - Feb 07, 2005 8:18:02 am PST #4563 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Heh. My work experience is remarkably similar to Tommyrot's. Except once I got to a particular level with Access and understanding databases, I found a niche in HR where I'm the person that pulls the data together from all the different systems and makes it into reports. Or just runs Access databases for tracking things.

Oddest thing I saw on my way to work today: half a rabbit, on the lawn of a univeristy building.

From my previous career as a groundskeeper at Kenyon College, I can state with some authority that half-a-rabbit is a fairly common side effect of using big tractor lawn mowers.


Kalshane - Feb 07, 2005 8:19:26 am PST #4564 of 10002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I'm impressed with the people who can program, because for the most part looking at code just hurts my brain. I mean, I have some basic html knowledge and can sometimes look at the code on a website and figure out how something I'm unfamiliar with is done like figuring out a puzzle, but it's very rare. For that matter, I'm not a big fan of logic puzzles anyway. Never did figure out how to do a Rubix cube. Though one time as a kid I finally got fed up and removed the stickers and stuck them back on in the right place.


DavidS - Feb 07, 2005 8:20:45 am PST #4565 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, I can't program. I mean, I can open the hood on Access and poke around in the SQL code, but that's about it.


Cashmere - Feb 07, 2005 8:20:54 am PST #4566 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

I went to the big art deco bookstore last night and was absolutely flabbergasted by the number of books like The Lazy Husband and various other Here's-What's-Wrong-with-Your-Man- and-How-To-Fix-It-without-Him-Ever-Noticing titles that were out on prominent display. Although it has no direct bearing on my life, I feel like I should give the finger to women who regard their significant others as fixer-upper opportunities out of solidarity with my heterosexual brethren.

How 'bout you find Dr. Laura and give her a good, old bitch slap for writing The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands. I married a man, NOT a cocker spaniel.

The whole manipulative side of that book market gives me hives. If your husband is an ass, he's not likely to change. If he beats you, leave.


Betsy HP - Feb 07, 2005 8:21:11 am PST #4567 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

How to draw "fu" (good luck).


§ ita § - Feb 07, 2005 8:21:32 am PST #4568 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My previous company does job-description-related profiling. My profile was absolutely nothing like your average programmer's. I sighed with relief when I saw that, because I didn't feel guilty anymore. Somehow, I was sure I should hold programming up as a holy grail of technical acheivement and do it absolutely effortlessly, plus orgasm on every 50th line of code written.

See, if I liked computers, and could code well, I figured I should love computers, and code effortlessly. With only myself to blame if that weren't true.

I draw my lines very simply -- geeks are on one side of me, dabblers on the other. I am the dividing line. Which means I actually do think things like "You're technical but can't write HTML? Get off!" and "You can recite the OSI model layers in ORDER off the top of your head? Loser." before the censor kicks in.


Betsy HP - Feb 07, 2005 8:36:18 am PST #4569 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I am confused. Why is it better to have these hanging around your neck than to have plain old readers hanging around your neck?


Jesse - Feb 07, 2005 8:42:17 am PST #4570 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I am confused. Why is it better to have these hanging around your neck than to have plain old readers hanging around your neck?

Because your glasses aren't sitting on your chest? Would be my guess, anyway.


Nutty - Feb 07, 2005 8:45:24 am PST #4571 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I will say, one of the odder/funnier work issues I get into is the "yes I am a humanities major, but that doesn't meant I am helpless at computers" thing. There have been several occasions when I had to jump into the wayback machine and call up my incredibly rusty and outdated geek lingo just to get various computer people to take me seriously.

I have found that claiming any kind of relationship with SQL does the trick, but it sometimes takes a couple of iterations of "poor wittle you, how can I ease your wittle wittle woes?" before it gets to that. I have been working here 9 months, and only Friday could I get a warm body to look at my machine and admit that I had a version of the company email software 4 releases out of date. Hey, maybe that is why emails with attachments from Mac users sometimes disappear! Whaddya know!