I got stabbed, you know, right here.

Mal ,'Shindig'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Ginger - Feb 04, 2005 11:03:50 am PST #4080 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I just read this on another list, and I wanted to share this with people who would be properly appalled.

As a writing teacher as well as PR writer, I recommend using commas only where they help clarify something. If your meaning is clear without one, don't use it.

If it's grammatically incorrect, however, that will immediately lower my opinion of you and the thing you're promoting.


Lyra Jane - Feb 04, 2005 11:05:37 am PST #4081 of 10002
Up with the sun

What's appall-worthy in that, Ginger?

(Yes, I kind of suck at grammar. Don't tell.)


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2005 11:08:58 am PST #4082 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Huh. Someone's being carried out in a stretcher. No one i know, but half the floor is staring and pointing.


Nutty - Feb 04, 2005 11:10:24 am PST #4083 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I recommend using commas only where they help clarify something.

Well, as a general rule, that can help -- there's a huge segment of the "writing" public (I use quotes judiciously) who hemorrhage commas. I think it's a gene, because in Britain that same tendency is expressed in unnecessary and wrong apostrophes.

But, yeah. Gross simplification. I also put in a comma where I would stop for a breath, were I speaking aloud.


Jessica - Feb 04, 2005 11:10:32 am PST #4084 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If your meaning is clear without one, don't use it.

The use of a comma in this sentence being ironic, in that case?


tommyrot - Feb 04, 2005 11:11:25 am PST #4085 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Someone's being carried out in a stretcher

Before I read the rest of the post, I thought ita was referring to the upcoming comma kerfufle.


Ginger - Feb 04, 2005 11:12:23 am PST #4086 of 10002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

You don't place commas according to clarity. You place commas according to grammatical rules. Frequently the result is the same, but my experience has been that if you just let people place commas on the basis of "more clear" or "sounds better," you have commas strewn willy-nilly about a document.

t Obsessive, much?


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2005 11:13:23 am PST #4087 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought ita was referring to the upcoming comma kerfufle

This strikes me more as a silent abduction sort of a thing.


-t - Feb 04, 2005 11:13:40 am PST #4088 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But if you don't know the rules, surely clarity is a better guideline than, say, making a pattern on the page.


Hil R. - Feb 04, 2005 11:14:03 am PST #4089 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My great-grandfather and his brothers came to the US on different ships, a few years apart from each other, and each one ended up with a last name spelled slightly differently. (First letter was a yud in Yiddish and sometimes became a Y in English, but sometimes a J, and a vowel that was an ayin in Yiddish sometimes went to E and sometimes I.)

One of the other branches of my family came into NYC in 1890 or 1891, which was when immigrants were being brought through a sort of temporary office while everything on Ellis Island was being built. The records from there are nearly impossible to track down. Before 1889 and after 1892 are much easier.