Does anybody mind if I pass out?

Willow ,'Beneath You'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


erikaj - Feb 02, 2005 10:20:39 am PST #3301 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

It was sad. A friend loaned me a tape of his videos and the longer I watched the more I could see that it was like watching him flip out in time-lapse. And I don't know what parents are thinking but I wish I could believe it was all good stuff.


Scrappy - Feb 02, 2005 10:24:05 am PST #3302 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Trudy--I'm not saying that only perfect people should hang out with kids but that a little care needs to be taken. A problem my SiL had is that one of my nephew's friends has parents who are very nice people, but also big ole potheads. Does the SiL let him hang out at their house, knowing they approve of getting high and smoke in front of their own kids? She would have no problem hanging out with them herslef, but it's a different problem when it's her 12-year-old.

It's so damn tough to be a parent--you don't want to be limiting and paranoid, but at the same time you don't want to put your kid in harm's way.


Lyra Jane - Feb 02, 2005 10:26:16 am PST #3303 of 10002
Up with the sun

But, being a black man and turning white on purpose is either genius sociopolitical theatre, or deeply fucked up.

I'm willing to believe the skin tone may be the result of bad advice on how to treat his vitiligo.

But I think he's definitely had more than two nose jobs (and even most celebrities stop at one), and chin and cheekbone implants, and hair straightening or a wig, and excessive makeup, and dressing in theatrical costumes, often even when a somber business suit would be more appropriate... all together, it does not suggest a man who is happy with himself, or who wants to live in the real world.


Trudy Booth - Feb 02, 2005 10:27:38 am PST #3304 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Nonsense. He sustained scalp burns, not facial burns.

Unless they did a skin graft (which they try to avoid) they probably pulled up from his face that was pretty thin at the time (and didn't have a lot of skin to pull up) and started working from there. Poor bastid ended up with a medically-demanded bad face lift.

His face got all tight and uneven, his nose collapsed, mad tweaking ensued on an obsessive guy with an unlimited budget...

I think the assumption that, "he set out to make himself look like that" may be a false one and it's certainly not proven to be the absolute fact its accepted as.


msbelle - Feb 02, 2005 10:30:05 am PST #3305 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

How much of a freak MJ is, while facinating, is losing the avoid work battle. I am actually doing my tax work now. I need to go make copies of a ton of paperwork.


Lyra Jane - Feb 02, 2005 10:32:52 am PST #3306 of 10002
Up with the sun

Unless they did a skin graft (which they try to avoid) they probably pulled up from his face that was pretty thin at the time (and didn't have a lot of skin to pull up) and started working from there. Poor bastid ended up with a medically-demanded bad face lift.

But his skin didn't start looking all weird until almost 10 years after the burns, did it? "Bad"-era MJ was obviously surgically enhanced, but he didn't get the freaky-deaky alien look until the '90's.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2005 10:34:14 am PST #3307 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's so damn tough to be a parent--you don't want to be limiting and paranoid, but at the same time you don't want to put your kid in harm's way.

This is true, but it's usually not that tough of a call. While there are a lot of people I trust Emmett with, they are all people who I know (and who he knows) well. If you have any doubt, you just say No. Also, there aren't a lot of opportunities for Emmett to be in an unsupervised situation. Actually...none.


tommyrot - Feb 02, 2005 10:39:43 am PST #3308 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I haven't had time to look at this, but here's a site dedicated to poking holes in the case against Michael: [link]

From what little I've looked at, it makes me suspicious of those accusing him (assuming the stuff at this site is true).

eta: Oh yeah, I should mention that this site is highly biased (which doesn't mean it's not true, but....)


sarameg - Feb 02, 2005 10:42:13 am PST #3309 of 10002

I just found a soggy cheerio in my hair.

Ew.


DavidS - Feb 02, 2005 10:42:42 am PST #3310 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From what little I've looked at, it makes me suspicious of those accusing him (assuming the stuff at this site is true).

I'm pretty sure he's been hit by exotortionists. I also wouldn't be surprised to know that MJ has a full-time publicist going around stoking suspicions about the motives of his accusers.