Oh yeah, and the most entertainment I've had in the real ER is running into people I know. Again, bad tv.
That's not what making out sounds like -- unless I'm doing it wrong?
Willow ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Jan 28, 2005 11:14:43 am PST #1765 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Nutty - Jan 28, 2005 11:16:41 am PST #1766 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I would suggest that early and mid-L&O did have ongoing stuff, but it was waaay in the background most of the time, because the show was about the job rather than about the personal life. And then, every once in a while, Mike Logan would totally go bananas over a case, and we'd be reminded, Oh yes, this fellow has issues about kid victims. For example.
WAT is similarly a show about the job -- but the personal stuff is closer to the fore. Months before that Christmas episode in which Malone basically owned up to having attempted suicide when he was younger, I knew and most of the characters had vaguely guessed that he was a functioning depressive.
Now CSI, that is a show that can't make up its mind from year to year whether its characters have continuous personalities or not.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 11:21:27 am PST #1767 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The most entertainment I've had in the ER is being on morphine and running into (well, adjacenting into) a FoaF.
Jesse - Jan 28, 2005 11:22:50 am PST #1768 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
But the plot of the episodes is almost never about the main characters. Sure, there was Lennie Briscoe's daughter, but that kind of thing only happens once a season, if that, on any of these shows. To me it's not about there not being ongoing character development and exploration, but more what is the A plot of the episode?
msbelle - Jan 28, 2005 11:23:50 am PST #1769 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
ERs suck ass. never had anything close to entertainment happen in one.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 11:25:23 am PST #1770 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That WaT episode where they brought that custody thing to the foreground bored and irritated me. Hell, I even get itchy when a character starts resonating with the A plot.
NoiseDesign - Jan 28, 2005 11:25:48 am PST #1771 of 10002
Our wings are not tired
I got rushed to the front of the line when I went into one complaining about chest pains.
Steph L. - Jan 28, 2005 11:26:17 am PST #1772 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Did someone already post this? Dick Cheney mistakes Holocaust memorial ceremony for meeting of ski club.
§ ita § - Jan 28, 2005 11:30:38 am PST #1773 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I got rushed to the front of the line when I went into one complaining about chest pains.
They didn't rush me, but hey! Morphine. Enough that I was turning the stuff down.
Nutty - Jan 28, 2005 11:32:15 am PST #1774 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
To me it's not about there not being ongoing character development and exploration, but more what is the A plot of the episode?
Oh, sure. But in the early seasons of L&O, it was possible to develop and explore characters by watching them do their jobs. I don't think that's really so any more, but I haven't watched it regularly in years.
Hell, I even get itchy when a character starts resonating with the A plot.
I guess it depends, for me. The recent Sam gets all mushy thinking about Barbara Ehrenreich-type low-wage workers episode was an annoying instance of same; the one from a couple of years ago, where HDT talked Joan of Arcadia down off a ledge by telling her his sad childhood, without us knowing whether it was true or not till afterwards, worked for me.