Given this discussion, I thought some of you might be interested in the (granted, old) link to the PBS documentary on social class in America,
People Like Us:
[link]
The documentary itself was incredibly revealing, to me at least. This site has even little games and such which supposedly help to peg your personal attitudes about the classes, as well.
The logical fallacy is, um, I have forgot the latin name. But in science, you might call it correlation is not presumptive of causation.
post hoc ergo propter hoc?
Poor people who got ahead worked hard. Therefore, hard work is what gets one ahead. Double therefore, non-hard work is what causes a lack of getting ahead.
OK, that makes sense. I wasn't sure what "can" meant in that context....
If your premise is false, all possible consequences may be considered true. Or so my Logic class truth tables led me to believe.
Though I don't now if I'm using the terms correctly.
Oh well, I'll post anyway. My boss is gone for the day, I have to make my own fun.
Quid post hoc, ergo propter hoc is what you're thinking.
If you're overwhelmed by that site, btw, I found the Teacher's Guide under the Resources tab a good way to get the overview of what is actually on the documentary.
(I used this documentary several years ago when discussing
The Great Gatsby,
so I don't have a clear memory of it. The teacher's guide was a helpful review.)
post hoc ergo propter hoc
Yes. After the thing, therefore because of the thing. Which is actually not a very specific way of expressing the concept, but who can pass up the opportunity for some latin?
who can pass up the opportunity for some latin?
Not me. Especially because I only know a handful of latin phrases.
ChiKat, the blank stares wouldn't happen in DC. That's the kind of stuff people love.
You and juliana now must come to DC. Socialising can be fun if you don't take it too seriously.
I found it refreshing that at my brother's wedding in Holland, I chatted with probably 50 people and no one asked what I did.
This is why I love Europe.
BWAHHAHAHAH, Jessica!
I don't think it's invasive to discuss my job, I just don't want it to be defining.
Poor people who got ahead worked hard. Therefore, hard work is what gets one ahead. Double therefore, non-hard work is what causes a lack of getting ahead.
Also that people who are ahead must've deserved it/have knowhow etc. Wasn't there a line in "If I were a Rich Man" that said something about it not mattering if his answers to the people who came seeking advice were right or wrong because people assume that when you have money you must know something?