A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 32 Flavors and Then Some  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Pix - Jan 27, 2005 10:20:33 am PST #1450 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Given this discussion, I thought some of you might be interested in the (granted, old) link to the PBS documentary on social class in America, People Like Us: [link]

The documentary itself was incredibly revealing, to me at least. This site has even little games and such which supposedly help to peg your personal attitudes about the classes, as well.


tommyrot - Jan 27, 2005 10:20:36 am PST #1451 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The logical fallacy is, um, I have forgot the latin name. But in science, you might call it correlation is not presumptive of causation.

post hoc ergo propter hoc?

Poor people who got ahead worked hard. Therefore, hard work is what gets one ahead. Double therefore, non-hard work is what causes a lack of getting ahead.

OK, that makes sense. I wasn't sure what "can" meant in that context....


-t - Jan 27, 2005 10:21:26 am PST #1452 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

If your premise is false, all possible consequences may be considered true. Or so my Logic class truth tables led me to believe.

Though I don't now if I'm using the terms correctly.

Oh well, I'll post anyway. My boss is gone for the day, I have to make my own fun.


Daisy Jane - Jan 27, 2005 10:23:01 am PST #1453 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Quid post hoc, ergo propter hoc is what you're thinking.


Pix - Jan 27, 2005 10:23:27 am PST #1454 of 10002
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

If you're overwhelmed by that site, btw, I found the Teacher's Guide under the Resources tab a good way to get the overview of what is actually on the documentary.

(I used this documentary several years ago when discussing The Great Gatsby, so I don't have a clear memory of it. The teacher's guide was a helpful review.)


Nutty - Jan 27, 2005 10:24:18 am PST #1455 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

post hoc ergo propter hoc

Yes. After the thing, therefore because of the thing. Which is actually not a very specific way of expressing the concept, but who can pass up the opportunity for some latin?


tommyrot - Jan 27, 2005 10:25:14 am PST #1456 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

who can pass up the opportunity for some latin?

Not me. Especially because I only know a handful of latin phrases.


Maria - Jan 27, 2005 10:25:28 am PST #1457 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

ChiKat, the blank stares wouldn't happen in DC. That's the kind of stuff people love.

You and juliana now must come to DC. Socialising can be fun if you don't take it too seriously.

I found it refreshing that at my brother's wedding in Holland, I chatted with probably 50 people and no one asked what I did.

This is why I love Europe.

BWAHHAHAHAH, Jessica!


Scrappy - Jan 27, 2005 10:26:35 am PST #1458 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I don't think it's invasive to discuss my job, I just don't want it to be defining.


Daisy Jane - Jan 27, 2005 10:26:41 am PST #1459 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Poor people who got ahead worked hard. Therefore, hard work is what gets one ahead. Double therefore, non-hard work is what causes a lack of getting ahead.

Also that people who are ahead must've deserved it/have knowhow etc. Wasn't there a line in "If I were a Rich Man" that said something about it not mattering if his answers to the people who came seeking advice were right or wrong because people assume that when you have money you must know something?