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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lyra Jane - Jan 27, 2005 9:33:25 am PST #1391 of 10002
Up with the sun

I thought it was pretty skeptically apparent he was marrying eye candy and she was marrying money. And that was societally endorsed, but I've never heard anything about how in love they are.

I might be biased by a Today Show segment I saw this morning describing it "Wedding of the Year." To me, that felt like cloaking a pretty naked business arrangement in flowers and candy hearts. I haven't studied the media coverage of their relationship in any detail.

I agree, in as much as how well they're known, and/or looked up to, but as far as powerandmoney- that's still class determined.

Agreed -- I was just thinking about the "pictures in the paper and people discussing their dresses" angle.

(And I didn't mean the Roots, did I? Black-Eyed Peas, sorry.)


Gus - Jan 27, 2005 9:34:30 am PST #1392 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Ouch! No patronization intended, Jessica. I just sensed that folks were tired of the subject of PPV-vs-Buy-vs-Rent, and was going to move on.

For what is worth, I will continue the argument. Moving things physically is more expensive than moving things digitally.

eta: Crap! Missed your edit.

How can that be (physical > digital)?


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 9:36:21 am PST #1393 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I think people are pretty universally cynical wrt to male money getting female beauty. That's been going on for ever, yes?

Why people are famous is different now. Any yokel with a video camera can potentially get on tv. There is an outlet for so much more than there ever has been before.

I was just looking at yearbooks from the 50s and the school had more than double the amount of clubs that we have now. and more people participated in each of the clubs. There were less options for entertainment and activity and so people were concentrated in a few areas.

In the same way, information was concentrated and society news was entertainment news. Media outlets had to cover things in person - you had to be present at an event to get covered and with fewer events to report on, more people got info on the same things. That is why everyone knew who Mrs. Astor was and why her name still hold up with folks like us who would never had any cause or need to know or interact with her.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 9:37:48 am PST #1394 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Moving things physically is more expensive than moving things digitally.

It doesn't matter how expensive it is, Gus. It matters how much margin the companies make -- as bon said too.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 9:38:37 am PST #1395 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

serial, perhaps:

To me, that felt like cloaking a pretty naked business arrangement in flowers and candy hearts.

And how is that not whoring, then?


Daisy Jane - Jan 27, 2005 9:38:59 am PST #1396 of 10002
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Agreed -- I was just thinking about the "pictures in the paper and people discussing their dresses" angle.

I was thinking more in terms of barriers to moving up socially, not just yourself, but whatever group you identify with be that your family, race or whatever. Money alone doesn't remove those for anyone, but possibly you yourself. You aren't going to bring your group with you without power which you can't just get with only money.


Maria - Jan 27, 2005 9:39:41 am PST #1397 of 10002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Maria, from what little I saw of the DC scene, it was downright scary.

Sometimes I think I'd feel safer in the African wild. The first thing anyone asks when introduced to someone is, "What do you do?" If the job doesn't have the right cachet or is too many degrees separated from a power source, the offending person is discarded and left to commiserate with the rats.


ChiKat - Jan 27, 2005 9:40:04 am PST #1398 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

But did they read the papers and talk about the dresses and stuff? Nobody does that now.

Nope. We watch awards shows and talk about the dresses and stuff.


ChiKat - Jan 27, 2005 9:42:12 am PST #1399 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

The first thing anyone asks when introduced to someone is, "What do you do?"

I think this is a fairly common first question no matter where you are.

If the job doesn't have the right cachet or is too many degrees separated from a power source, the offending person is discarded and left to commiserate with the rats.

This reaction, however, seems more DC-y to me. I get blank stares from people about my job but that's because it's in a very niche industry that most people don't even realize is an industry.


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 9:43:23 am PST #1400 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I don't get why saying it is the wedding of the year is saying it is a great marriage - I read it as saying that it is getting the most media attention.

I see the Trump marriage like some of the old Hollywood "dating couple" and marriages that were more about studios demanding the relationships from their contracted stars than real relationships. Well except I don't think she is protesting at all, I think she is a knowing and willing participant.

It's tacky (as is everything he does), but as an unknown whatever she is, all the coverage certainly won't hurt her. It's what the public wants.