Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Scrappy - Jan 27, 2005 8:24:03 am PST #1295 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Wait, Paris Hilton has Old Money pedigree? Wasn't her grandfather a hotel owner? That's new money by WASP standards.


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 8:24:17 am PST #1296 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I know there are a ton of people who work on movies (yes, those pirating is bad ad-spots really got me ), but am I really supposed to feel bad that Tom Cruise or Jerry Brukheimer is not getting a piece of my rental? Don't they factor things like that into the huge amounts of money they get as payment for their jobs on each movie?

Smaller movies? sure, I get that everyone down the line made less money, but aren't those smaller films working with distributors like Sundance and whatnot to get their product out?


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2005 8:24:43 am PST #1297 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But most whites are stuck there too.

Proportionately? Fewer. Even fewer than the new money disproportion.

Of course rich is exclusive. It's pretty much tied up in the definition.

However, trailer trash with money? Still trailer trash, for those as use the term. The Gottis and the Hiltons and the ... dunno, Kennedys? Not on the same level.


Trudy Booth - Jan 27, 2005 8:26:24 am PST #1298 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

There's still an old money/new money divide, and most non-whites are definitively stuck on the new money side.

But nobody cares about old money in America besides old money. It still exists, but it's lost much of its cache. Middle class people used to read the society pages and follow what the Vanderbilts and Scribners were up to. Now people wonder why Paris Hilton (who is largely a joke and hardly revered) is of interest since she's never done anything... it's slipping away.


tommyrot - Jan 27, 2005 8:26:31 am PST #1299 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But for some reason realizing I can see this movement in the form of a band of light moving across my screen is really amazing. I'm not talking "hey, it's on the other side now." I'm talking watch it inch across.

sarameg is me. I just love noticing evidence of the earth's rotation, revolution, etc.

Sometimes I'll look up and see the moon and I'll wonder if it's waxing or waning. Then I picture the earth rotating to the east (causing the sun and moon to set in the west) and I remember that the moon is going in the same direction around the earth as the earth is rotating (just much slower) so that 24 hours later the moon will also be further to the east. Then I picture where the sun is, and where the moon will be, and then I can tell if more or less of the moon will be illuminated.


msbelle - Jan 27, 2005 8:27:30 am PST #1300 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

wow I hate the shorthand that WASP = money.


Cashmere - Jan 27, 2005 8:27:57 am PST #1301 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

That's new money by WASP standards.

What's the standard? Three wealthy generations in the ground?

I still like Kevin Spacey's quote from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil: "I'm what they call 'nouveau riche,' but then, it's only the "riche" that counts."


Scrappy - Jan 27, 2005 8:29:07 am PST #1302 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

The Gottis and the Hiltons and the ... dunno, Kennedys?

All trash as far as Old Money is concerned. The Kennedys are Irish Catholics, so not even WASPs. But whay I'm saying is that money will get you a lot further in Anerica than pedigree, unlike England.


ChiKat - Jan 27, 2005 8:29:46 am PST #1303 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

wow I hate the shorthand that WASP = money

Me, too. I'm a decidedly middle class WASP.


Gus - Jan 27, 2005 8:31:01 am PST #1304 of 10002
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Agitating for their rights and then stealing movies -- I dunno. Not much of a moral high ground there.

I'm not too sure where this "stealing movies" allegation is coming from.

Was that flame bait?

Paying $6 or so bux to store a movie seems like a square deal to me. I have no intention of buying furniture for this purpose, unless hard drive space is somehow now "furniture".

On the Creator-vs-Studio thing: The creator sold it to the studio. If the studio is making money, they will come back for more. The studio ain't making more, from rental.