Well, we may not have parted on the best of terms. I realize certain words were exchanged. Also, certain... bullets. But that's air through the engine. It's past. We're business people.

Mal ,'Serenity'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Strega - Apr 16, 2007 6:38:10 am PDT #9627 of 10001

I can't really interpret it because I'm so appalled by the writing.

...That was written by an English major from Brown? Yeesh.


Kevin - Apr 16, 2007 7:45:26 am PDT #9628 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

That bit sounded like a dig, with money quotes thrown in, so it's below the belt by the author. IMHO.


Miracleman - Apr 16, 2007 7:54:21 am PDT #9629 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I think Allyson's right. Fans didn't get the movie made. Fans made it desirable for Universal to make a movie...and that's a pretty big difference.

Some bright kid at Universal saw all the brouhaha, or had it pointed out to him or her or whatever and where fans see passion and love and fiery determination to keep a vision going, Bright Star saw $$ and heard a "cha-ching" sound in his head.

In that view, we weren't a "force to be reckoned with". We were a "market".

Either way, we got a cool movie, though.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2007 8:46:23 am PDT #9630 of 10001
What is even happening?

I think Universal wanted Joss, and Joss wanted to make the movie.


Kevin - Apr 16, 2007 9:11:39 am PDT #9631 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Me also. There's an interview with Joss fairly early on where he says Universal weren't even aware about the fan thing even existing.

Make no mistake: Uni used fans as a marketing tool. It gave them a great media pitch, and by giving the fans vague resources it gave them free advertising. And I have no problem with that -- they used me, for example, and I used them and had a fucking good time in the process.


Tamara - Apr 16, 2007 11:47:05 am PDT #9632 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

What Cindy said. Joss was their motivation. Not Serenifly.


Kevin - Apr 24, 2007 2:04:50 pm PDT #9633 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

For those convention people, there's 4 Serenity conventions later this year. (Yes, that will go well).

There's a Serenity one in the UK in October, then Creation are running a Serenity convention in LA in October, and the same weekend there's a Serenity convention in Australia. Then the following weekend there's ANOTHER Serenity convention in LA (Starfury). Then a few weeks later there's the Browncoat Cruise.


lunda - Apr 24, 2007 4:20:38 pm PDT #9634 of 10001
Sometimes evil drives a minivan.

And the Browncoat Ball is in Philly the last weekend of September.


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 5:03:15 am PDT #9635 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Browncoat's are gonna be busy. Looks like I'm doing the second LA thing.


Beverly - Apr 25, 2007 6:50:04 am PDT #9636 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I'm currently listening to Ed Gerhard's Live album and missing Firefly quite a lot.