Willow: Yes. Hi. You must be Angel's handsome, yet androgynous, son. Connor: It's Connor. Willow: And the sneer's genetic. Who knew?

'A Hole in the World'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Monique - Feb 07, 2007 4:06:31 pm PST #9501 of 10001

I know this is a publicly available document, but I have to say I don't think you're putting yourself in the best position by making the full names and home addresses of 500+ fans so readily available. Kind of smacks of a huge privacy violation, IMO.


Kevin - Feb 07, 2007 4:13:18 pm PST #9502 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Hmm. Yeah, you have a point. I'll see if I can find something which will let me edit the PDF to remove sections. It's available from the courts website, though, so possibly not much of a useful exercise.


Monique - Feb 07, 2007 4:16:44 pm PST #9503 of 10001

Yeah, I know. But it feels like it's one thing for involved parties to go through the trouble of hunting down the information and another for random bystanders like me to have access to so much personal information by clicking on a link here or at BE Victims.

I'm HUGE into guarding my privacy, though, when it comes to personal details creeping online. I often have my guard up.


Kevin - Feb 07, 2007 4:21:39 pm PST #9504 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I actually agree. A few years ago I had somebody from online world turn up at my house. They ran around in the garden outside. It was... surreal.

That said, though, I figure the doc is going to be useful to people at that group. I'll pull it from the site after a few days, I think, and set it so archive.org and Google can't get to it.

There's some odd shit in that document. For a start, you can see how much all the Whedonverse actors get paid as it's in the accounts. Bruce Campbell is well cheap!


tiggy - Feb 07, 2007 6:02:15 pm PST #9505 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Christian Kane and Brand X Management are codebtors? huh?


Topic!Cindy - Feb 08, 2007 11:57:50 am PST #9506 of 10001
What is even happening?

I noticed Brand X registered a LiveJournal account and posted at that be-vicitims LJ (which I keep thinking is 'be-screwed'). I knew I knew Brand X. I couldn't remember why.


tiggy - Feb 08, 2007 1:26:45 pm PST #9507 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

it feels like 2001 all over again.


Kevin - Feb 08, 2007 2:59:31 pm PST #9508 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I've had assistance with the personal address data in the Petition for bankruptcy, and we've been back and removed the personal addresses from the online copy.

Also, I've spoken to a legal person about the documents today. They've had a look, and they think there's some real issues with the petition.

I really feel torn about the issue. I think the fans deserve more than $4 each back, but it'd mean making the owners liable personally for a lot of the money. Hohum.


Wolfram - Feb 13, 2007 11:42:20 am PST #9509 of 10001
Visilurking

I really feel torn about the issue. I think the fans deserve more than $4 each back, but it'd mean making the owners liable personally for a lot of the money. Hohum.

So? I thought the owners deliberately defrauded the fans. Shouldn't they be personally liable?


Kevin - Feb 13, 2007 1:17:42 pm PST #9510 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Well, I've no idea if it was deliberate, but they certainly lost the fans a lot of money. They owe 'bout $300k and a bit, though -- I know if I ended up with a bill for that it'd cost me everything.

I passed the information I had to the detective and via legal peeps to the bankruptcy court a few days ago. It's up to them to do their thing.