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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


§ ita § - Dec 22, 2006 6:55:31 pm PST #9326 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I had the Flanvention forum open in another tab and I just clicked past it and noticed it's now asking me to log in.

Uh, whatever.

What I do want to know is what happened with it...are they refunding? Bankrupt (the main BE site doesn't look that way)? Being sued?


Kevin - Dec 23, 2006 8:51:41 am PST #9327 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

ita, BE have deleted their forum, the Flanvention information and Flanvention ticket purchase history (if you're a customer and log in).

There's a police investigation going on in Oregon which has made contact with about a hundred customers, an investigation going on in another state (but they've asked not to be named), and a state level department of justice probe going on in Oregon. (Oregon is where the business address is registered).

No word from the owners for about a week. Suspect they are shittin' it.


Monique - Dec 23, 2006 8:56:32 am PST #9328 of 10001

and a state level department of justice probe going on

I'm sorry, but that just sounds cool.

Granted, I'm not the one being probed.


§ ita § - Dec 23, 2006 9:00:55 am PST #9329 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks for the heads up, Kevin.

I have no idea if BE was criminal, but they certainly were criminally stupid, all the way through and after the cancelled con.


Kevin - Dec 23, 2006 9:15:16 am PST #9330 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Yep, that's the best summary I think ita. There's been no real evidence emerge online that they were into fraud with the money, but -- that said -- I think any BE customers would welcome somebody external looking at the accounts and the situation surround the collapse.

The owners managed to bungled the convention, and then continue to bungle the fall out from it. They openly said they don't have the money to refund people last week, so we'll see what happens. The fact they stopped posting online a week ago suggests they are getting legal advice now, though, I suspect. Or at the very least the clue stick has been turned on.


Allyson - Dec 23, 2006 10:10:42 am PST #9331 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Any con without the hottie security team is not a con worth attending, I tells ya.

You'll be available for the Drive party, right?

I mean, what if that mean guy shows up to try and cut Tim's balls off?

I think he needs a security detail.

And obviously, so will Kristen.


Kristen - Dec 23, 2006 11:47:57 am PST #9332 of 10001

Allyson is hilarious. And on crack.


Ailleann - Dec 23, 2006 3:51:11 pm PST #9333 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

So I just finished my tivoed "Wedding Wars," an A&E movie about gay marriage with John Stamos and a guy I think is in Grey's Anatomy. And who is playing Stamos's boyfriend but dear little Sean Maher. And he spends most of the movie switching between awwwwadorable and GUH. The flick's ok, but I might need to keep it just for the pretty.


Kevin - Dec 26, 2006 7:11:31 am PST #9334 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Question - anybody else hear that Nathan, Summer and Joss are apparently coming to London next month for something?


Kevin - Dec 27, 2006 6:08:53 am PST #9335 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Question - anybody else hear that Nathan, Summer and Joss are apparently coming to London next month for something?

Nobody, that'll be a'nobody as it's an internet rumour gone wrong.