Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Daisy Jane - Dec 07, 2006 5:04:44 pm PST #9063 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

What a sweetie!

Those poor people. I am in awe of Allyson, Kristin, ND, deb g., everyone who manages to pull off any event. Allyson shall henceforth be The Angel of Fannish Vengance.


Kevin - Dec 07, 2006 5:06:47 pm PST #9064 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The thing that REALLY pisses me off is that two weeks ago, it was clear there were massive problems. Yet they promised the event was back on. Two weeks ago there were backup plans being put in place. Right now, the hotel won't even give James etc the space (they're waiting on legal clearance).

Basically, BE gave people about a few hours notice of the cancellation in the end. I'm sure other things will happen, but not as planned as before.

They basically really fucked about with people. I'm slightly worried about the amount of money we're talking about here, also - it's well into 6 figures worth of ticket sales for the event, and there's things like creditors (they openly said they got loans for the event), lifetime ticket holders ($5000 each!) etc.

I'm not even going to Flan. But I'm still with Allyson on this one. If I'd been going, seriously, I'd be going nuts I think.


Consuela - Dec 07, 2006 5:22:45 pm PST #9065 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Who the fuck are these BE people?

I have massive issues with Creation Entertainment, but they've never pulled this kind of crap.

This is appalling, and like Allyson, I'd love to punch someone. And hug Adam Baldwin.


Allyson - Dec 07, 2006 5:24:23 pm PST #9066 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I really would like to rant about just who I think these BE people are.

Like, a solid old school takedown.

But I really need to eat supper.


sarameg - Dec 07, 2006 5:28:18 pm PST #9067 of 10001

Go eat.

Seriously, that's (not supper) all kinds of fucked up. Kudos to Baldwin for being a good guy and showing up anyway. It's this ginormous example of good human behavior versus crapass.


Daisy Jane - Dec 07, 2006 6:35:41 pm PST #9068 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

But I really need to eat supper.

Supper then shakedown? I'm not schooled enough in these matters to really understand how all this happens, but my fairness meter is twigging. It seems like someone had an idea for an event, talked it up, took money for it, then didn't do the work required to make the thing come off and rather than cop to it, let everyone think it would still happen and then pulled the rug out from under them.

Like someone went and cancelled Firefly Christmas.


Allyson - Dec 07, 2006 6:45:20 pm PST #9069 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Tamara, are you still around? If I can get a screen and some space for people to sit there, there's a guy, who wrote a thing, and there's other stuff.


DavidS - Dec 07, 2006 7:01:33 pm PST #9070 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If I can get a screen and some space for people to sit there, there's a guy, who wrote a thing, and there's other stuff.

Fuck yeah.


Liese S. - Dec 07, 2006 7:03:17 pm PST #9071 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Aww, bless.


Daisy Jane - Dec 07, 2006 7:05:26 pm PST #9072 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

It's the grinch* who saved Christmas!

  • not in any way implying that Allyson's heart is 3 sizes too small. If anything, it's just the opposite.