Let's put it this way. If she had put out that shirt, without Serenity the movie existing, then no one would have bought it. The interest that was created in her materials came from the corporately created and owned film in question.
No. You're missing the point. The design of the thing is functional. The plan is not to shoot you. The plan is to get the girl. If there's no girl, then the plan, well, is like the room.
Early ,'Objects In Space'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Liese S. - Nov 01, 2006 10:37:20 am PST #8977 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 10:47:25 am PST #8978 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
She's a professional artist by trade, and makes money from shirts not related to this fandom, I believe.
Liese S. - Nov 01, 2006 10:51:53 am PST #8979 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
Fewer people would have bought it? I'm assuming that the Serenity fanbase is larger than her shirt clientele?
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 11:00:59 am PST #8980 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Well, of course fewer people would have bought it. I don't think -- just my opinion -- she would contest that the designs were aimed at Firefly/Serenity fans. However, people on this very website wrote in a book called "Finding Serenity". Should Universal retroactively invoice those folk?
Allyson - Nov 01, 2006 11:16:17 am PST #8981 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Invoice them for what?
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 11:19:45 am PST #8982 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Writing about works owned by Universal without a license to do so, and profiting from it.
ChiKat - Nov 01, 2006 11:21:19 am PST #8983 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Writing about your own personal experience about the work and writing a work in that universe with those characters are different things.
Topic!Cindy - Nov 01, 2006 11:26:37 am PST #8984 of 10001
What is even happening?
Well, of course fewer people would have bought it. I don't think -- just my opinion -- she would contest that the designs were aimed at Firefly/Serenity fans. However, people on this very website wrote in a book called "Finding Serenity". Should Universal retroactively invoice those folk?I think the book is a well established Fair Use. It's legal to refer to and/or use portions of copyrighted materials for criticism and commentary. Besides, nobody is going to confuse a book about themes in Firefly with the product the studio was selling. Whereas consumers might well confuse fan made for-fan-profit T-shirts "inspired" by a film, with any T-shirts Universal (et al) might choose to license.
Here's some summarized information on fair use/not fair use as pertains to visual arts: [link] See the "Not a fair use" paragraph on the church quilt poster.
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 11:28:27 am PST #8985 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Yes, but Universal and FOX have sold licenses to Titan -- exclusive ones -- for delivering works pertaining to the development of the show and movie.
ETA - this post was written earlier..
Allyson - Nov 01, 2006 11:35:34 am PST #8986 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I've profited off the sale of Save Firefly as part of a collection of my work. Fair use, falls under commentary.
There's no yes but about it.