which have nothing to do with shirts, which is the issue at handI'm confused. Didn't Strega bring that up to counter your refutation of her B5 point?
Harken: You fought with Captain Reynolds in the war? Zoe: Fought with a lot of people in the war. Harken: And your husband? Zoe: Fight with him sometimes, too.
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Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Topic!Cindy - Nov 01, 2006 8:23:21 am PST #8960 of 10001
What is even happening?
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 8:55:52 am PST #8961 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
She did, but it doesn't counter it - whilst it says JMS doesn't like bootleg DVDs, RPGs and such, it doesn't mention shirts. Now, maybe I'm wrong on that score and he doesn't like them. I don't know. I'll mail him.
Allyson, I'm not convinced Susan *is* clearly in the wrong. She debatably was, but as it stands her work isn't referencing Firefly/Serenity, isn't linked to on her site and doesn't contain any copyrighted work. In an ideal world Universal's law firm would quietly drop the issue, or go after one of the 3150 other shirts available: [link]
Allyson - Nov 01, 2006 9:02:44 am PST #8962 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Allyson, I'm not convinced Susan *is* clearly in the wrong. She debatably was, but as it stands her work isn't referencing Firefly/Serenity, isn't linked to on her site and doesn't contain any copyrighted work.
As it stands now.
What keeps discombobulating me is that some fans seem to be arguing that since she complied with the C&D, she's exonerated from having to pay the licensing fee. I'm not understanding that part of it. Why doesn't she have to pay? What's the reasoning?
Liese S. - Nov 01, 2006 9:09:18 am PST #8963 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
She did make money off the violating material before the C&D, right?
Allyson - Nov 01, 2006 9:09:49 am PST #8964 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Yes.
Liese S. - Nov 01, 2006 9:10:29 am PST #8965 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
So she should have to pay.
It seems pretty simple to me.
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 9:11:07 am PST #8966 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Because the studio arguably encouraged it, in my mind.
There's many examples. When Serenity was in release in the UK, Universal UK gave me approximately 30 shirts to give away for the UK Serenity site. The ones they gave me were ordered from Cafepress.
Universal's lawyers gave Susan a C&D, which is an indication to stop (obviously), and she did.
Also, regarding the old designs, I'll dig them out. But they were not Serenity logos, Serenity characters etc. I think the one at issue had the rear end of the ship visible, from memory.
Mikey - Nov 01, 2006 9:12:17 am PST #8967 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.
3) Universal used the artwork in question on their Serenity prepublicity material for SERENITY. Also, without permission from the designer. It's also visible on the SERENITY DVD. Without permission.
Kevin's wrong on this point. Anything you did on the Serenity site you were giving Universal permission for its further use. For that matter, did you attend one of the screenings? Just going in the door you gave Universal permission to use your likeness. There were big signs and everything.
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 9:13:45 am PST #8968 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Not in the UK, Mikey. I should know - I helped organise and sold the screening tickets in the UK for Universal. Also, I helped them run the US website, and I don't think they claimed copyright on posts - I'll check.
Kevin - Nov 01, 2006 9:18:50 am PST #8969 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Okay, there's no copyright claim, but the T&Cs state:
Anything you transmit or post may be used by Universal or its affiliates for any purpose, including, but not limited to, reproduction, disclosure, transmission, publication, broadcast and posting.
So, anything submitted to Universal they could reuse, but 11th Hour's stuff was not submitted on the site, as far as I know.