But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


beekaytee - May 28, 2006 6:08:50 am PDT #8484 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I know it has been mentioned a bajillion times, but I just watched Cowboy Bebop for the first time last night.

The similarities to Firefly in music and the ship, um, shape, were the only two things that struck me as equivalent. And maybe the sketchy profession...although, bounty hunters have their own show...

Not sure I'm going to fall in love with Bebop nearly to the degree I did Firefly.


Una - May 28, 2006 1:27:32 pm PDT #8485 of 10001
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Cowboy Bebop didn't nearly do it for me the way Firefly did. I only watched about a disc and a half before giving them back to the labmate who'd loaned them.


libkitty - May 28, 2006 2:25:47 pm PDT #8486 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I'm not much into anime. I liked Cowboy Bebop, but it was definitely like, not love, for me.


SailAweigh - May 28, 2006 2:57:47 pm PDT #8487 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

My daughter had friend staying with her for a while who was all into anime. I'd watch some of it with him and it was kinda interesting, but not engrossing to me. I can see how some would like it, just not my style.


Liese S. - May 29, 2006 6:18:29 am PDT #8488 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I love the Bebop, but my love for anime predates my love for the Jossverse, so I am not a representative sample.


Kalshane - May 29, 2006 8:18:15 am PDT #8489 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Cowboy Bebop is high on my list of favorite anime. I love Firefly more, but Bebop has plenty of charm on its own. Though the simularities between the two are pretty much limited to both shows using normal guns instead of lasers and taking place on a ship where people are struggling to make ends meet between jobs. I don't think the Bebop even looks much like Serenity. (The Outlaw Star and Serenity have a much more similar shape, IMO.)


JZ - May 29, 2006 5:18:21 pm PDT #8490 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I adore Cowboy Bebop, though it was a long and slow-growing love. My one big gripe about it is that it's the first anime I have ever seen, and now when Hec tries to show me something else the Tivo has grabbed for us, it just looks wretched in comparison. The writing, the voice acting, the incredible music, the gloomy visual lushness of it -- nothing else measures up. I occasionally berate Hec for artificially setting my anime standards far too high.

And, yeah, not altogether dissimilar from Firefly, with the dark, and the grubby lived-in, beat-up ship, and the messily improvised alien-free other planets, and the slowly unfolding painful backstories.


Dana - May 29, 2006 5:28:26 pm PDT #8491 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

JZ, you guys should try Samurai Champloo.


CaBil - May 29, 2006 7:15:03 pm PDT #8492 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Except of course, the Outlaw Star has giant arms and would engage in hand to hand combat with other starships. And occassionally smack them around with it's giant axe.

The beautiful thing about anime, they never do anything in halfs...


Volans - May 29, 2006 10:21:08 pm PDT #8493 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I grabbed a Wired magazine to read on the flight to the F2F, and they had a blurb about the crazy browncoat guy who raised the ~1000 to bring Firefly back. The tone of the paragraph was that he was cool.

I don't get it - you can't bring Firefly back. I do wonder if someone could play in Joss' 'Verse and make their own good stories though....