And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


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Tamara - Mar 02, 2006 9:38:09 am PST #8050 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Beej, are you part of the DC area browncoats group? I heard stories of an awful kerfuffle over their recent RPG.


Kalshane - Mar 02, 2006 10:03:04 am PST #8051 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Something like that isn't a big deal. You're still contributing to the story as a whole and if the GM hadn't wanted to deal with what you're doing she could have easily said "You wait, but see nothing out of the ordinary" and moved on to the rest of the group. I'm referring more to people who have their characters wander off on their own to settle personal vendettas/goals or otherwise stir up trouble. The former is fine if the player lets the GM know ahead of time so he can plan for it, and if the GM thinks it will be too time-consuming, can set up a separate one-on-one session with the player, or handle it via e-mail or whatever. The latter just tends to cause meaningless headaches.

That's not to say there won't be times when the GM expects/encourages the group to split up and do their own thing. Such as when they're resting planetside after a big job or something. Basically, the problem is when a lone person wants to ignore the main story currently underway and do their own thing.


beekaytee - Mar 02, 2006 10:48:02 am PST #8052 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Beej, are you part of the DC area browncoats group? I heard stories of an awful kerfuffle over their recent RPG.

That would be me.

One guy bent a shelf in my fridge and left it for me to clean up (though he may not have realized it)

Someone else took food not meant for the event

But the WORST was the friend of one of the players showing up after the thing was over...looking me in the eye and saying, "Do you have any other food? I expected food." I was FLOORED. Plus? The event was over. I needed people to leave and they. just. wouldn't.

The person whose friend it was got v. defensive...when in fact I don't think anyone even realized it was her friend until she took her agita to the public forum.

At any rate, the organizer of the group sent out a general, rules while playing at Beej's house message and it was ON. Blown terrifically out of proportion.

Are you connected to the group somehow Tamara?


beekaytee - Mar 02, 2006 10:50:07 am PST #8053 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

cereal:

You wait, but see nothing out of the ordinary" and moved on to the rest of the group

This happened a lot. And made perfect sense once the whole story came together. The process really is fascinating. And the GM did a great job.


Tamara - Mar 02, 2006 10:57:02 am PST #8054 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Beej, I'm good friends with Claudia. She vented to me in an email. I'm sorry you had to put up with such bad behavior.


beekaytee - Mar 02, 2006 11:00:29 am PST #8055 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

OMG. I could not believe the things this woman was saying about Claudia who so graciously keeps us organized and on track...spends her own money...just like I do. It was craxy with a capital X, I tell you.

Since I'm the professional, deal-with-difficult-people gal, I told her to just forward all the vitriolic messages and I'd take care of them. She takes that sutff way too to heart, bless her.

The perp kept trying to get C to apologize. I nearly died. AND was peeved that C characterized her own, perfectly right behavior as less than such...giving fuel to a fire that she just did not deserve to be burned by.


Tamara - Mar 02, 2006 11:26:34 am PST #8056 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

C is a dear kind soul, and she does take these things to heart. I gave her some extreme passive aggressive tactics to use in the future.


Kalshane - Mar 02, 2006 11:31:05 am PST #8057 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

One guy bent a shelf in my fridge and left it for me to clean up (though he may not have realized it)

Someone else took food not meant for the event

But the WORST was the friend of one of the players showing up after the thing was over...looking me in the eye and saying, "Do you have any other food? I expected food." I was FLOORED. Plus? The event was over. I needed people to leave and they. just. wouldn't.

WTF? Okay, if people showed up at my house and acted like that, I would be bemoaning the fact I didn't have an airlock to shove their asses out of.

There is such a thing as being accomodating to the group and whatnot, but the general rule is whoever's home you're playing in makes the rules. If people have a problem with that, they can either provide another location to play, or find another game to play.


beekaytee - Mar 02, 2006 11:34:09 am PST #8058 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I just wish that wasn't necessary!


beekaytee - Mar 02, 2006 11:37:26 am PST #8059 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

but the general rule is whoever's home you're playing in makes the rules.

And yet, because I have 3 rules (no wet on wood, don't leave your food on the floor for my dog, and leave at 6pm) I am painted as intolerent.

The problem person said that rpgs are generally played in bachelor pads...where people don't care about the environment. Okay. But mine is a mid-level, nice place...you can't adjust?