Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.

'Ariel'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


§ ita § - Jan 08, 2006 6:33:33 am PST #7578 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Right now, direct-to-DVD means either that it's a kid's movie that's going to make a huge %age of its money there anyway, or that it's too crap to be on the big screen ever.

If movies are made simultaneously available, then, like DCJ says, you just find a new word.


beekaytee - Jan 08, 2006 6:41:57 am PST #7579 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

It's a object of mathmatics too I think.

So many films are made every year and only a small percentage of them actually make it to the screen.


tianxiaode - Jan 08, 2006 10:37:59 am PST #7580 of 10001
Adrian Pasdar: bringing hot (and ambiguously gay) to a new level since Top Gun.

there will always be a subset of really cheezy and bad films

Of course, a bunch of those make it to the theater as well.


Zenkitty - Jan 08, 2006 12:40:12 pm PST #7581 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

For example, the Blade sequels should have been direct-to-DVD... in my opinion... at least then my SO wouldn't have subjected me to seeing them!


beekaytee - Jan 08, 2006 4:03:59 pm PST #7582 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Oh lord Yes!

And I actually like Blade. I'd still have seen the sequels, but I wouldn't have felt so dirty after...if I'd done it in the privacy of my couch.


Zenkitty - Jan 08, 2006 5:09:29 pm PST #7583 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Heh. Exactly. And then I could have rewound the only worthwhile part of Blade:Trinity, which was Ryan Reynolds chained up half-naked.


beekaytee - Jan 08, 2006 6:00:10 pm PST #7584 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

DITT-O!

On Topic, one of my convertees called tonight specifically to say that she'd watched episodes on FX. "The one with the prostitutes was so SAD!" she wailed. Then went on to muse that Nathan could be a major leading man.

My toaster is shiny!

Please don't let Slither! suck as badly as I'm afraid it will.


tianxiaode - Jan 08, 2006 6:44:54 pm PST #7585 of 10001
Adrian Pasdar: bringing hot (and ambiguously gay) to a new level since Top Gun.

Oi. Talk about direct-to-DVD fodder.

I don't suppose Slither could also have Ryan Reynolds chained and half-naked? Nathan's hot and all, but more hot=better.


tommyrot - Jan 08, 2006 7:38:17 pm PST #7586 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Huh. This is weird. I thought Moore had downplayed any Firefly inspiration on BSG's special effects. (But I can't remember exactly what he said, or where I read it.)

Loni Peristere, visual effects supervisor on the SF movie Serenity, told SCI FI Wire that the movie's computer-generated visual effects mimicked handheld camera moves and realistic lens effects, which also directly influenced the F/X on SCI FI Channel's original series Battlestar Galactica.

When Galactica creator Ronald D. Moore and visual effects supervisor Gary Hutzel saw the visual effects that had been pioneered for director Joss Whedon and Serenity's predecessor TV show, Firefly, they came to Peristere. They told him "that's the way it should be photographed, and please bring those rules to Galactica," Peristere said in an interview. "That is the way this should be shot. And now Galactica has taken on its own set of rules. But it started with appreciation for Firefly and appreciation for work Joss had begun." (Serenity is now available on DVD.)

In Serenity, digital animation of the title spaceship taking off in the rain included raindrops on the camera lens. "When you have a massive ship lifting off, it would be hard for the cameraman to keep the lens clean," said Peristere, who worked with Whedon on both the TV show and movie. "We proposed this as a style to Joss, where the animation would have mounted cameras, depth of field, zoom lenses, all in CG, and he's like, 'Well, yeah, my whole movie is a documentary. Find the story in the camera design.' And we went with it."

Peristere's team from his Zoic Studios created Firefly/Serenity's jerky digital style, which differs from the static style of 2001: A Space Odyssey or the more fluid F/X of the Star Wars films. The style adds a sense of realism, as if things were shot by real people and not created in computers. "It seemed sort of silly to not apply the cinematic language to digital photography as well," Peristere said.

As an example, in Serenity climactic battle scene, visual-effects designers worked as if they had three camera operators following the title ship. "Our job from an animation standpoint was to create an action that moves through the battle, rather than participating in the battle," Peristere said. "Our pilot is chasing Serenity and has to keep Serenity in frame, even though large chunks of debris and fire is coming toward him." The new Serenity DVD includes features on the creation of the movie's visual effects.

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Zenkitty - Jan 09, 2006 5:13:24 pm PST #7587 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

For those interested in Medium, Mark Sheppard (Badger) has a guest spot tonight as a bad guy/ghost.