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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kristen - Dec 01, 2005 1:38:04 pm PST #7298 of 10001

I don't know what her deal was with 20th and whether or not she has releases from them but, generally speaking, when you are employed by 20th Century Fox to create X for their Y TV show, you are not authorized to sell X, even if they have cancelled Y.

Allyson can tell you all about how ME threw stuff away because 20th wouldn't let them give it to fans for a charity auction.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2005 1:39:15 pm PST #7299 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I hope she checked. I can't see how she could fly under their radar long.


Kristen - Dec 01, 2005 1:41:02 pm PST #7300 of 10001

I think 20th has people who actually check ebay regularly for unauthorized auctions.

They might have even shut me down once. I don't remember for what. Maybe my Serenity floorplan renderings?


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2005 5:07:59 pm PST #7301 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sequel rumours...reposted almost in entirety.

IGN FilmForce has heard that, although it was very disappointed in the poor boxoffice showing for Serenity, Universal may not have retired Captain Malcolm Reynolds and his renegade crew just yet.

Sources said that, given the strong sales of the TV series Firefly on DVD, Universal is planning a sequel film to Serenity that will be produced with and to broadcast premiere on the Sci Fi Channel, which is part of the NBC Universal family.

The project is said to be a lower budget undertaking streamlined for the small-screen.

IGN FilmForce checked with Joss Whedon's camp who denied the claim; Universal did not comment.


Allyson - Dec 01, 2005 5:30:51 pm PST #7302 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Sources say: I call bullshit.


Consuela - Dec 01, 2005 7:02:25 pm PST #7303 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

IGN is... not particularly reliable as a news source.


Mikey - Dec 01, 2005 9:37:02 pm PST #7304 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

I don't know what her deal was with 20th and whether or not she has releases from them but, generally speaking, when you are employed by 20th Century Fox to create X for their Y TV show, you are not authorized to sell X, even if they have cancelled Y.

Shawna's auction is one that's been in the works for quite a while, and I'd be really surprised if she hadn't gotten all the permissions fairly long ago.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2005 8:42:14 am PST #7305 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Serenity Hand Puppet Theatre.


tommyrot - Dec 02, 2005 8:45:03 am PST #7306 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I want a Reaver hand puppet.


Kathy A - Dec 02, 2005 9:21:06 am PST #7307 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

In an interesting review of a Showtime movie on tonight (Homecoming, directed by Joe Dante of Gremlins fame--oh and FYI, free Showtime this weekend, if you're like me and don't normally get the channel), this article references Serenity as an example of genre movies' ability to show the state of the country better than issue dramas.

Homecoming exemplifies the way genre movies like Land of the Dead and Serenity have consistently outclassed self-conscious statements like Good Night, And Good Luck. and the upcoming Syriana. Where the latter get bogged down in fact-checking and aides, the nonspecific nature of fantasy stories allows viewers to fill in the blanks; the movie sketches the forest, and the audience plants the trees. Hell, even Harry Potter gets in on the act when Dumbledore insists that the only way to honor a slain boy is to tell the truth about his death; too bad he wasn't running things when Pat Tillman was killed. In part, Dante says his decision to frame Homecoming as a zombie tale was "purely opportunistic this venue was probably the only one where we could get away with it." But he also knows that, while they don't garner the same respect, genre movies often stand the test of time better than their Oscar-bait contemporaries. "If you ever want to know what the world was like at a given time, go look at the horror movies and the comedies," he says. "You'll have a complete view of what the society was like, which you won't get from the issue drama." Homecoming may not generate too many op-eds, but Dante hopes it will fuel the desire for the truth to come out. Like the soldiers in his story, "it seems to me that people are kind of waking up."