It's because you didn't have a strong father figure isn't it?

Joyce ,'Chosen'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


brenda m - Nov 28, 2005 8:18:46 am PST #7273 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Ouch, Trudy. Wish I knew what to suggest, other than going for a long walk yourself.


Trudy Booth - Nov 28, 2005 8:19:43 am PST #7274 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

eek! wrong thread! moving now!


Betsy HP - Nov 28, 2005 8:42:02 am PST #7275 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Carrie Ann Moss might disagree with the literal interpretation.

Is Carrie Ann Moss getting offers outside the genre ghetto?


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 8:44:55 am PST #7276 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is Carrie Ann Moss getting offers outside the genre ghetto?

We don't talk as much as we used to, so I couldn't tell you. She has worked outside the genre ghetto, so I'd assume some of them are offers.

I'd also assume she made decent bank.

Surely you're not saying that recurring SF movie roles are bad or always trumped by Broadway or other movies, though?


Betsy HP - Nov 28, 2005 9:04:22 am PST #7277 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Surely you're not saying that recurring SF movie roles are bad or always trumped by Broadway or other movies, though?

I'm saying that if you want to be taken seriously as a character actor, a recurring role in an SF show is not your best bet. You want to show versatility, and a recurring role is bad for that, and you want to be taken seriously, and an SF show is bad for that.

But, hey, I'm not in the industry; I could be talking through my hat.

I'll tell Carrie Ann she should be returning your calls.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 9:04:49 am PST #7278 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Alan didn't opt out of a recurring role in a TV show, though.


Betsy HP - Nov 28, 2005 9:32:08 am PST #7279 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

But I already said that a recurring role in a movie based on SF tv is equivalent to a recurring role in the original TV show. None of the original Star Trek supporting actors is considered a movie star, even though they're in hit movies.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2005 9:37:08 am PST #7280 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, Carrie Ann Moss didn't opt out of a recurring role in a TV show. Since you were talking about her too, I thought we were talking about the literal interpretation ("Carrie Ann Moss might disagree with the literal interpretation."), not your clarified position.

I have no idea which point we're talking about now, to be honest, so I'll stop.


Betsy HP - Nov 28, 2005 9:42:01 am PST #7281 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

I'm pretty sure that movies-based-on-genre-TV (e.g. Star Trek) don't count for any more than the original TV.

I was talking about that.

edit: whoops, sorry, that was a clarification. My bad.


KernelM - Nov 28, 2005 10:38:11 am PST #7282 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Alan was also in two big movies in 2004, Dodgeball and I, Robot. Combined with Spamalot, I'd say he's the most "going places" of the cast.