I like dark and nihilistic, but I like it with some humour. I'm trying to think of examples, and I can't. Um, Fight Club, maybe. American Psycho? In tv I guess not so much. Oh, there was a sketch show called Jam a few years back that I really liked. It was very bleak, and bizarre, and hilarious.
What? She killed 'em with mathematics. What else could it have been?
Jayne ,'Objects In Space'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Jars - Oct 23, 2005 8:50:27 am PDT #7064 of 10001
aurelia - Oct 23, 2005 9:13:00 am PDT #7065 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
You can't have a light without a dark to stick it in.
I liked dark shows like Millennium and The Inside, but I don't think a darker Mal would've been a good thing. Movie Mal seemed much like Pilot Mal but without the "I love my captain" factor the gooey inside was harder to see.
Kevin - Oct 23, 2005 9:20:50 am PDT #7066 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
The thing is, though, to put it context: the Alliance has just burned down to the ground all the places the crew visits, killed their friends, and Book. They are being hunted down like animals, and they WILL be killed.
So he makes a decision. To try to pass through Reaver space. And then only way to get the crew to do that is to take charge. I don't think he would have ever shot any members of the crew at that point, at all. But the threat was there.
How much are you willing to have taken from you before you fight back?
If Mal had been prancing around, kicking people through engines and such at that point, and then decided to fly to Miranda and Jayne had gone along with it... I'd be like, hang on.
I do agree there's a limit to how far a series can go into the darkness - the humour has to be kept (something Angel season 2 demostrated doing well, for example). I don't think the edited lines pushed Mal too far into the dark, personally - it just added to the moments.
Dana - Oct 23, 2005 10:38:04 am PDT #7067 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.
Cracker is dark.
IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 23, 2005 11:14:23 am PDT #7068 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel
Oh, there was a sketch show called Jam a few years back that I really liked. It was very bleak, and bizarre, and hilarious.
"Chopped up man. Chopped up maaaan."
Kristen - Oct 23, 2005 11:14:31 am PDT #7069 of 10001
Cracker is dark.
YAY! Dark is my favorite!
I haven't had a chance to watch yet. I was doing stuff and, now, there's a Prison Break marathon.
Strega - Oct 23, 2005 11:26:10 am PDT #7070 of 10001
Oh, there was a sketch show called Jam a few years back that I really liked. It was very bleak, and bizarre, and hilarious.
Hey, I just finished watching that on DVD last week. Now I'm trying to figure out if there's anyone I can show it to who will still speak to me afterwards.
Kristen - Oct 23, 2005 11:26:54 am PDT #7071 of 10001
You should come to LA and we'll watch them with you.
Strega - Oct 23, 2005 11:31:38 am PDT #7072 of 10001
I'm working on it. Slowly. I kept thinking Tim would like it, with all the dead-baby jokes.
Jars - Oct 23, 2005 11:32:35 am PDT #7073 of 10001
Now I'm trying to figure out if there's anyone I can show it to who will still speak to me afterwards.
Dude, who could fail to see the mirth in the Melon King? Or the little girl assasin? Comedy gold.