Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 14, 2005 4:15:48 am PST #685 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So off the Firefly topic, but. after watching My Three Sons after school for so long, I was blown away by seeing Fred MacMurray in Double Indemnity. I could not believe it was the same man!.

You should see THE APARTMENT some time. A really good Jack Lemmon role, and Fred MacMurray as an unbelivably nasty corporate weasel. It's a very bitter, biting commentary, set (when it was made) during the "gray flannel suit" era.


Nutty - Feb 14, 2005 5:07:48 am PST #686 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My gold standard of Fred MacMurray nasty is The Caine Mutiny Court Martial. Nothing says nasty like ass-covering cowardice. (Also, check out Bogart as Caine slowly unraveling.)

Enemy of the People was made into a movie, you know. It was Steve McQueen's last movie, I am pretty sure.


DXMachina - Feb 14, 2005 5:22:46 am PST #687 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Heh, I was going to mention the Caine Mutiny. MacMurray really did make a career out of being a dick, at least until he did The Absent-Minded Professor.

McQueen's last movie was The Hunter, which I only know because of the Drive By Truckers song about McQueen.

The coolest goddamned motherfucker on the silver screen...


Frankenbuddha - Feb 14, 2005 5:27:58 am PST #688 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

(Also, check out Bogart as Caine slowly unraveling.)

Queeg. The Caine was the boat, I believe.

I want to know what happened to the strawberries.

Bogie gave good crazy (see also TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE).


tommyrot - Feb 14, 2005 5:29:46 am PST #689 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Queeg. The Caine was the boat, I believe.

Was that the movie about the (fictional) crew of the WWII destroyer that mutinied against their crazy and incompetent captain?


Frankenbuddha - Feb 14, 2005 5:31:23 am PST #690 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Was that the movie about the (fictional) crew of the WWII destroyer that mutinied against their crazy and incompetent captain?

Yep. There was a play made of it as well.


Nutty - Feb 14, 2005 5:40:25 am PST #691 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

But first, it was a novel by Herman Wouk. Not a very good novel, I'm afraid, but that is Herman Wouk for you.


tommyrot - Feb 14, 2005 5:44:57 am PST #692 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

It was inspired by an actual event, when Admiral Halsey (edit: I think it was him) sailed his carrier task force directly into a hurricane or typhoon or something - several destroyers (which are small ships when compared to a carrier) sank as a result of the storm.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 14, 2005 5:46:52 am PST #693 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I put off reading that damn thing until the day before my 11th grade History test on it. 617 pages in the printing I had!


Nilly - Feb 14, 2005 5:51:13 am PST #694 of 10001
Swouncing

But first, it was a novel by Herman Wouk.

I can totally tie this back to "Firefly". Here's how: a married couple, both friends of mine, can never agree on "good" books, each of them enjoys completely different books. The favorite of the husband? The "Cain Mutiny" mentioned above. The favorite of the wife? "Ender's Game", written by Orson Scott Card, who apparently really likes "Firefly".

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