Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.

Angel ,'Not Fade Away'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Allyson - Oct 12, 2005 5:27:40 am PDT #6346 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

# At least one of the Ff boards already is members only.

I remember a yahoo group that was locked to members only, claiming that a woman who worked for Mutant Enemy was angry at the OB and wanted them to break off into their own special group.

There was only one woman working for Mutant Enemy, the office only had four people, Joss, Chris, and their assistants.

She thought it was all pretty bizarre.

That's craxy.


Dana - Oct 12, 2005 5:31:05 am PDT #6347 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I think trying to decide which fandom is crazier is pretty much a futile pursuit. All fandoms have their crazies. It just depends who's waxing and who's waning.

Except for Lord of the Rings, because those people are batshit.


KernelM - Oct 12, 2005 5:51:07 am PDT #6348 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Scary doesn't even do the Serenity board justice. *shudder* The OB can be pretty crazy in its own right, especially if you venture into the Off-Topic area. Gah. It's had its share of wank in the regular areas too.


tianxiaode - Oct 12, 2005 5:56:17 am PDT #6349 of 10001
Adrian Pasdar: bringing hot (and ambiguously gay) to a new level since Top Gun.

I remember a yahoo group that was locked to members only, claiming that a woman who worked for Mutant Enemy was angry at the OB and wanted them to break off into their own special group.

Not quite; I've been a member of that group since day one. The forums at TWoP closed down without warning and we wanted a space to talk amongst ourselves. There was no anger, no orders, nobody working for ME.

One of the list members knows someone who used to work at ME, and there was a rumor that ME was watching the list for a while, because it was active and the fans there were unstinting in their "dangerously obsessive" devotion to Firefly; that's all.

The "lock down" came after a barrage of spam emails. The only "requirement" to join, ever, was to prove that you were human and had heard of Firefly.


Allyson - Oct 12, 2005 6:15:11 am PDT #6350 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

One of the list members knows someone who used to work at ME

I never bought that.

there was a rumor that ME was watching the list for a while

Or that.


KernelM - Oct 12, 2005 6:41:03 am PDT #6351 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

You know everybody who's ever worked at ME and their acquaintances?


tommyrot - Oct 12, 2005 7:07:24 am PDT #6352 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

LJ thingie on Serentity:

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I liked Serenity a lot, but I actually came out quite shocked at--well, how FANFICCY it was. I mean, to my mind, Serenity is clearly an intellectual/ethical rewrite of Star Wars, and I look at Joss Whedon and say to myself, "Self, this is a man very near your age, who, like you, fell tragically victim to the cult of Han Solo," which in my mind is a religion involving a particular kind of masculinity that says, no, and says no and then caves and says, yes. yes. i will. And I think that--and please hear my fervor as a lifetime member of the cult when I say this--that this view of masculinity is in itself a sexual orientation. And I saw Serenity and thought, wow, Joss is as caught up as any of us in the "be him or fuck him" dilemna that haunts fandom. This is the movie that I wanted Star Wars to be. More than that, this is the story that Star Wars kind of WAS for me, as I rewrote it in my mind.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 12, 2005 7:11:11 am PDT #6353 of 10001
What is even happening?

I think trying to decide which fandom is crazier is pretty much a futile pursuit. All fandoms have their crazies. It just depends who's waxing and who's waning.

That's really all I meant by my little list. Inherent in fandom is some sort of devotion to something (the work, the creators, the talent, etc.). Devotion can totally take rationality in a street fight.


Allyson - Oct 12, 2005 7:13:20 am PDT #6354 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You know everybody who's ever worked at ME

Yes.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 12, 2005 7:13:42 am PDT #6355 of 10001
What is even happening?

Self, this is a man very near your age, who, like you, fell tragically victim to the cult of Han Solo," which in my mind is a religion involving a particular kind of masculinity that says, no, and says no and then caves and says, yes. yes. i will.

Previously known as the cult of Rick Blaine (Casablanca).