I believe that's my hey. Hey!

Xander ,'Storyteller'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Gus - Feb 04, 2005 9:29:50 am PST #594 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

BMECT. IJS.

BTW, FF RX!


SailAweigh - Feb 04, 2005 9:30:07 am PST #595 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

this acronym thing could get out of hand.

OTOH, it might not.


tommyrot - Feb 04, 2005 9:30:19 am PST #596 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

You know, this acronym thing could get out of hand.

IOW, TATCGOoH.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 04, 2005 9:31:04 am PST #597 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

LOL!


amych - Feb 04, 2005 9:31:11 am PST #598 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

RX

Firefly is licenced to write drug prescriptions?


Gus - Feb 04, 2005 9:37:17 am PST #599 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Firefly is licensed to write drug prescriptions?

Firefly is a drug prescription.

OK, I just effused myself into a coma.


sfmarty - Feb 04, 2005 10:18:54 am PST #600 of 10001
Who? moi??

Arby, sfmarty doesn't enrage easily. Not to worry.


Beverly - Feb 04, 2005 10:55:36 am PST #601 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

This is interesting when applied to Mal. Because on the surface he projects the male value set (values the skills of Kaylee, Zoe, Simon, Wash) and his explicit unquestioned authority. But in action he frequently (almost begrudgingly) exhibits the female value set: makes exceptions (doesn't space Jayne, takes on Simon and River despite the inherent danger to his ship), and obviously values relationships (perhaps most explicitly with Kaylee, though clearly also with Zoe).

Another thing about Mal is that while he doesn't brook anybody questioning his orders, he does actually listen to this crew and make adjustments.

Yes, exactly! This is what I saw that made me buy into "raised by momma, had a bunch of men around, bossed some of them" canon. Wasn't Joss raised primarily by his mom? I'd think if anybody did, in this cast, Mal would have the largest share of Joss' alter ego.

About Zoe, I can only go on what I observe filtered through my own experience. I'm southern, I know families that were "ruined" by the Civil War and Reconstruction. Some of them recovered their finances, they never lost their social standing, I grew up and went to school with members of some of those families, their lives were constantly chronicled in the local newspapers. Big frog, small pond, noblesse oblige, that sort of thing.

I think ita could be equally right with the martial arts family backstory. There is the same physical awareness and control, the same mental state, the same emotional masking in Zoe that would also occur in my backstory. But I don't get military off her. I think the military was all picked up during the war.

I think that she lost all she'd known. She happened to find herself assigned to Mal, and she looked to him to give her direction and purpose. Zoe'd quickly observe Mal had a knack for keeping his troops alive, more than other commanders, perhaps. He was sure and decisive and mostly right. Having lost her childhood moorings, she'd fasten onto him--thus, the loyalty and the near-telepathic communication.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.


Beverly - Feb 04, 2005 10:58:56 am PST #602 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Zoe and Mal have the same body language. Complete confidence in how they move. Book has it to a degree, but none of the others. There is a calmness about the three of them, each in their own way. To me it is obvious that whoever parented them, mom, farm hands, tutors, they gave the children a sense of worth.

And this! Yes!

Whatever their backgrounds you know that if something was needed, and they didn't have it, they could invent a substitue without much fuss.

Yup. Self-sufficiency and self-confidence. Kaylee has this, too--but only as it applies to engines. Elsewise, she's very coltish and wide-open and admiring of all the new stuff she's getting to see and experience.


sumi - Feb 05, 2005 7:58:46 am PST #603 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I emailed that OSC review of FF to some friends. One of them forwarded it to her Dad who is an OSC fan. He has now requested to borrow her FF dvds.