Ah, the pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots. Shut up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


IAmNotReallyASpring - Oct 04, 2005 10:44:43 am PDT #5872 of 10001
I think Freddy Quimby should walk out of here a free hotel

My sister likes Buffy well enough, but can't watch it because of the way they speak.

I refused to watch Buffy for an age because of the language. It didn't strike me as being rich and flexible; it struck me as lazy comedic writing. All whatever-y this, and blank-girl that.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 04, 2005 10:47:28 am PDT #5873 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

or even Shakespeare (cretons!)

People who don't like Shakespeare are pork spread?


beekaytee - Oct 04, 2005 11:00:22 am PDT #5874 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Well THAT's embarrassing. Here I am, whinging about language and I prove that loving words does not mean I can spell them. Pork spread? That's a new one for me. Thanks for the edification Frank! (of course, I meant to say 'cretIn."

And ita, I'm totally busted on the non-Ameri-centric view. I wasn't even considering non-English or other language speakers.

While apt to have to dash any second now, as soon as my client arrives, I'm firmly in David's corner around the writer's style being as great deal of the writing. Gracious, I read Dave Egger's first book simply because the style kept me hooked...LONG after the substance had left me by the roadside.

And while I really do understand the folks who don't want to enter into say, the Buffyverse due to the language, what I don't understand is the anger-inducing aspect of the 'different.'

Dang...doorbell. Gotta go make a living.


Jesse - Oct 04, 2005 12:18:16 pm PDT #5875 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

People who don't like Shakespeare are pork spread?

Har! I think in my family we spell it with a g (guerton?) but mmmm.


beekaytee - Oct 04, 2005 12:22:57 pm PDT #5876 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

That's what thinking outloud (or on the keyboard) will get ya...Thread Killing!

Sorry for the lack of clarity. I think I better think this notion through much more effectively before displaying it for public consumption.

In the meantime...so impressed with the spicy brains around these parts.


libkitty - Oct 04, 2005 1:05:28 pm PDT #5877 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

Mmmm...brains!


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 04, 2005 1:12:13 pm PDT #5878 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

One thing that cracks me up is that Nathan Fillion and Adam Baldwin have gotten so used to the Firefly speech patterns that they use them when publicly speaking to fans, in (more or less) their own words. And I'm not 100% certain that's a conscious choice...


Liese S. - Oct 04, 2005 1:25:47 pm PDT #5879 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hee. I love it. And it speaks to how natural a potential language pattern it was as written.

Regarding kid reaction: the fan's kid in our row had a great time, once he got his booster seat. I must admit I chortled a bit on realizing the dad was going to have to explain Kaylee's line. Everyone in the theater was laughing and the boy said, loudly, "Wait, what? What was run by batteries?" Then everybody laughed some more.


Susan W. - Oct 04, 2005 1:36:15 pm PDT #5880 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

The Firefly speech patterns have always resonated with me, probably partly because I'm Southern and partly because my own reading and writing have given me a well-developed 19th-century brain. I can't watch the show without slipping into the speech pattern, at least WRT the rhythm of it. And having seen the movie last night and being in the midst of rewriting a chapter of my novel, I'm having the hardest time keeping my Jack from sounding just like Mal. Picture me shaking my imaginary rifleman by his manly shoulders and reminding him he's ENGLISH, dammit.


DCJensen - Oct 04, 2005 2:57:57 pm PDT #5881 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I wanted the Operative's last line to be a mention that he's going to seek out his family and reconnect, starting with his brother: A bounty hunter who took the name Jubal Early.

But that would have been a bit gratuitious, I guess.