Can't any one of your damn little Scooby club at least try to remember that I hate you all?

Spike ,'Get It Done'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 4:29:04 pm PDT #5778 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's way odd that so many people are admitting to being scared away from the movie by other people. See the damn movie if you want, skip it if you want, but the existence of Browncoats? They're not in the movie. Get over it.

A friend just told me "It's weird when fans name themselves."
"Uh, D, I'm a Buffista."
"I know!" she said. "But that's different somehow!"
"Because we don't have a dress code?"
"That could be it."


Dana - Oct 03, 2005 4:29:12 pm PDT #5779 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Genre fans in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?


Kalshane - Oct 03, 2005 4:32:56 pm PDT #5780 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

and the thing I kept returning to in my head is that the “Browncoats” are seen, by many other genre fans, as overzealous.

I think fans of anything can be overzealous at times. I just think the Browncoats are making more noise than anyone esle right now because of the movie release and the whole feeling of redemption after being "done wrong" over Firefly.

That's not to say I haven't seen or read about Browncoats behaving in a fashion I find embarassing, but I've seen the same among the fans of just about everything I've liked at one time or another.


Cashmere - Oct 03, 2005 4:33:39 pm PDT #5781 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think it's way odd that so many people are admitting to being scared away from the movie by other people. See the damn movie if you want, skip it if you want, but the existence of Browncoats? They're not in the movie. Get over it.

Agreed. They're just fans--extreme fans, maybe--but it's kind of shitty to be agressively prejudiced against them if they're not tugging on your sleeves in line or getting in your face about how great the film is.

And if said agressiveness is online--it's even easier to avoid. I don't frequent the official site and I don't post at any browncoats sites.


JenP - Oct 03, 2005 4:34:16 pm PDT #5782 of 10001

See the damn movie if you want, skip it if you want, but the existence of Browncoats? They're not in the movie.

'K, that made me laugh out loud.


Kristen - Oct 03, 2005 4:35:16 pm PDT #5783 of 10001

See the damn movie if you want, skip it if you want, but the existence of Browncoats? They're not in the movie. Get over it.

Yeah but, from what I've seen, the issue is that some people feel like they can't escape the "Browncoats." That's the complaint I've heard from CHUD and AICN and, even, people on LJ. That threads and discussions that have nothing to do with FF or Serenity are getting hijacked by certain people calling themselves Browncoats. I can see where it would get a bit irritating.


tommyrot - Oct 03, 2005 4:37:07 pm PDT #5784 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah but, from what I've seen, the issue is that some people feel like they can't escape the "Browncoats."

Well those people should just stop their bitchin' and let themselves be assimilated....


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 4:38:37 pm PDT #5785 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see where it would get a bit irritating.

What does that have to do with seeing the movie? Will not seeing it make the Browncoats go away? If you did want to see the movie, and you let non-movie things like that that you can't affect turn you off, it looks a bit weak to me.

the rabid Firefly fans have sure as hell scared me off seeing the movie.

All the loud and enthusiastic Firefly-quoting and squeeing about Serenity on my f'list have made me wary as hell about watching the movie.

What the hell? Scared? Wary?

The squeeing doesn't mean a thing about the quality.

Maybe I'm just better at compartmentalising, but fandom's never kept me away from anything I was interested in.


Kristen - Oct 03, 2005 4:44:39 pm PDT #5786 of 10001

If you did want to see the movie, and you let non-movie things like that that you can't affect turn you off, it looks a bit weak to me.

I can see how if you were on the fence or lukewarm about something and you felt constantly barraged by a group of people saying, "This is the greatest movie EVAH. You must see it. It will change your life," it might push you from lukewarm to ice cold. It's just a backlash.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 4:47:52 pm PDT #5787 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's just a backlash.

I think those are weak too, for the record.

If the comments were all about "My GOD those fucking annoying Browncoats!" I could see the PoV with more respect. But it's the "My GOD those fucking annoying losers who're changing my behaviour!" that I roll my eye at.