He was non-specific, merely said that they would be in any possible sequel. Perhaps a prequel? I don't know, just reporting what he said.
Wash: Don't fall asleep now. Sleepiness is weakness of character. Ask anyone. You're acting captain. Know what happens you fall asleep now? Zoe: Jayne slits my throat, and takes over. Wash: That's right. Zoe: And we can't stop it.
'Shindig'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
UTTAD - Oct 03, 2005 1:24:45 am PDT #5682 of 10001
Strawberry disappointment.
Eddie - Oct 03, 2005 3:41:27 am PDT #5683 of 10001
Your tag here.
Ok, if we're talking plot holes... at the end, when everyone is hunkered down behind the locked door, why couldn't they have called the elevator and at least gotten further away? Sure, it may have only delayed the inevitable (i.e. being Reaver lunch) but in that case I'd think you'd try anything to survive (especially Jayne) as long as possible.
JenP - Oct 03, 2005 3:48:41 am PDT #5684 of 10001
why couldn't they have called the elevator and at least gotten further away?
Inara says at one point, "The lift wont move!" or somesuch.
Eddie - Oct 03, 2005 3:53:17 am PDT #5685 of 10001
Your tag here.
Inara says at one point, "The lift wont move!" or somesuch.
Hmm, Mal didn't seem to have any trouble using it. Oh well, we know Joss isn't big on the technology.
§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 3:54:03 am PDT #5686 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Mal didn't seem to have any trouble using it.
Mal wasn't calling it from the same place they were. If the panel in the room where they were trapped was broken, it makes perfect sense.
MechaKrelboyne - Oct 03, 2005 5:33:52 am PDT #5687 of 10001
... and that's a Pantera's box you don't want to open. - Mister Furious
All I can come up with is: maybe his dinky little stun gun couldn't get the job done from the distance where the fight started. Once they were on the central platform, he didn't have time while fighting Mal. Once he thought Mal was defeated, there was no need to destroy the transmitting equipment.
It's probably the same type of stun gun that the Alliance had in the series, which only affected people. Like the one Jayne couldn't shoot a door with.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 03, 2005 5:34:09 am PDT #5688 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Yeah, the room Mal was in didn't have Reaver gunfire ricocheting all over it.
I did wonder what good the blast doors were going to be in sealing out the Reavers if they were going to pop open automatically a few minutes later. River didn't key them open, she was posing dramatically halfway across the room.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 03, 2005 5:48:50 am PDT #5689 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
It's the selection of the marriage to kill that I don't trust because of author issues, not just the character I "like" best, because I don't necessarily like Wash best, and the older character, which is after all a Hollywood cliche which I think could stand to be inverted.
I can't argue that older characters getting killed off isn't a cliche, but for "happily married couple" I've always parsed it down to "happy couple", and I can't think of one of those that ever ended well in any Joss-verse (that was made up of major charaters that I cared about - I'm ignoring Willow/Kennedy like a thing to be ignored).
I'm much more satisfied that Wash died than that Zoe/Wash broke up at some point, which is by far the more usual route per Joss.
Foxhunter - Oct 03, 2005 5:50:21 am PDT #5690 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.
She killed the door with her brain?
Katie M - Oct 03, 2005 6:20:06 am PDT #5691 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Man, the quote generator just threw up Zoe talking about her and Wash's beautiful baby for me. Sob!