Oh, the reason I popped back in was that I just started watching my tape of the SciFi special about Serenity, and Ron Glass looked reassuringly hale and hearty in it too. Maybe he was just lit/made up extremely harshly in his scenes for some reason?
Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.
River ,'Objects In Space'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 02, 2005 10:11:39 am PDT #5595 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Polter-Cow - Oct 02, 2005 10:12:10 am PDT #5596 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It was not the series--Mal was back to the darker, more bitter Mal that Joss originally wanted and Fox made lighten up. He basically ended up in the same emotional space at the end of the film that he was in the beginning of the series, but that didn't bother me.
I wonder how much of the changes in character we could handwave as "six months passed." Simon's greater assertiveness, I can definitely buy with that. Mal's reversal of his notion that Simon and River are very much a part of his crew takes a little more. But maybe things happened in those six months that hardened Mal up again. And I know Joss has said he doesn't want a prequel, but a movie set in that time would have Wash. But it wouldn't allow Mal to learn Book's secret.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 02, 2005 10:14:31 am PDT #5597 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
It might allow us to learn Book's secret though, so I'm all for it regardless of Mal being left in the dark. ;-)
Polter-Cow - Oct 02, 2005 10:15:01 am PDT #5598 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Hee. Yeah, that's what I thought too, Matt.
Katie M - Oct 02, 2005 10:15:13 am PDT #5599 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
He basically ended up in the same emotional space at the end of the film that he was in the beginning of the series, but that didn't bother me.
Yeah, it did bother me a little--I felt like I'd already seen this story, or something. Like the characters had all been smacked backwards, without me getting to see how. And I was able to get around that by separating off the series and the movie in my head--the different Simon-and-River backstories helped there--but it was a little disorienting.
I think that in some ways, that arc might've worked better for me if I hadn't watched the show. (Though I think I still would've bounced off of everyone else going along on Mal's suicide mission a little bit. Didn't believe that for a moment.)
Theodosia - Oct 02, 2005 10:19:13 am PDT #5600 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I bet River knows Book's secret. Whether she knows she knows it is another matter.
Serenity III: The Search for Book, anyone?
Allyson - Oct 02, 2005 10:19:39 am PDT #5601 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I'm afraid I don't understand why people are announcing that they'll never watch the sequel, will "never trust Joss again", and that sort of thing.
I can't believe they trusted him in the first place.
The box office looks miserable to me, overall, for everything. I've heard box office receipts have been in decline, but is this a miserable time of year on top of it?
Scrappy - Oct 02, 2005 10:22:06 am PDT #5602 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I KNOW, Allyson. The Cronenberg film got rave reviews, has lots of stars in it and was made by an established director with a devoted following and barely did any business.
Allyson - Oct 02, 2005 10:26:06 am PDT #5603 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Serenity II: The Wrath of Tim.
I didn't think of that.
Theodosia - Oct 02, 2005 10:29:42 am PDT #5604 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Tim would make a great criminal mastermind -- only with a beagle instead of a fluffy white cat.