Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?

Snyder ,'Empty Places'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


DebetEsse - Oct 01, 2005 2:43:38 pm PDT #5519 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I see the problems people have with the movie. I do. And I share some of them (Mal's lack of "The Crew is family" foremost among them, at this point). But, over the course of the day, I've started liking it more and more, as a self-contained movie, as a continuation of the series, and as a starting place for a new story (I'd be fascinated to know if plans for the next story were already in place while this one was being made).

And I want to see it again.


Foxhunter - Oct 01, 2005 3:51:22 pm PDT #5520 of 10001
When we kill people it makes the policemen flustered and stern.

Glad to hear I was wrong about Ron, I guess he just really sold me with his 'aging into fragility' acting. I just found it hard to believe the thin, elderly Book on the big screen was ;ess than a year ago the healthy, powerful Book who disabled Dobson so readily in the first Serenity. He really is an amazing actor, had everyone I saw the film with convinced he was ailing. Speaking of acting, I introduced a new friend to Firefly last night. Halfway through he commented, "Wow, this is some damn fine acting." Followed 10 minutes later by "I'd watch network TV if it was like this."


Theodosia - Oct 01, 2005 4:16:40 pm PDT #5521 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We ran into my friend Julia's friend Susan at the show last night -- after talking to her for about 15 minutes, listening to her enthuse about the characters, we realized she not only hadn't seen the original series, she hadn't know it existed. So I have proof that at least one total newbie could come to the movie, follow it and like it lots.


Polter-Cow - Oct 01, 2005 5:09:40 pm PDT #5522 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The latest Entertainment Weekly (the one with the Serenity review) has a nice little article on Nathan Fillion.


Elais - Oct 01, 2005 5:15:54 pm PDT #5523 of 10001
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001

I saw the movie earlier today. It certainly wasn't THE BEST MOVIE EVAH! but it was a good one. I knew Wash was going to die but not exactly when in the movie. I wasn't all that moved when they killed him. In part because I'm not that emotionally invested in him or the other characters. My problem with the death was that it was so damn quick. I wonder if it would have been better if he was killed while they were crashing and not when the ship stopped and they didn't realize he was dead immediately, something to 'soften' the blow, so to speak.


Steph L. - Oct 01, 2005 5:49:30 pm PDT #5524 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

The guy's got way more energy than I do, at twenty years his junior.

Well, you're evil and he's not.

Evil ages you. Look at Dick Cheney.


§ ita § - Oct 01, 2005 6:09:05 pm PDT #5525 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Cheney's just bad at it. Tim lives off the energy of the lives he cuts short on TV. Each year they lose off their fictional lifespan is added to his youth.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 01, 2005 6:20:45 pm PDT #5526 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Evil ages you. Look at Dick Cheney.

But hasn't he been around sowing discord and bargaining for the souls of mankind since the dawn of history?


evil jimi - Oct 01, 2005 6:36:12 pm PDT #5527 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

We are all aware that Simon is only 21 or 22, aren't we?


Tim Minear - Oct 01, 2005 7:00:09 pm PDT #5528 of 10001
"Don' be e-scared"

Bill Clinton is aging rapidly, too, you partisans.