Mal: Inara, think you could stoop to being on my arm? Inara: Will you wash it first?

'Heart Of Gold'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


tommyrot - Sep 30, 2005 8:11:56 pm PDT #5377 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

People were laughing at the Doom trailer.

I was all 'WTF?' that they had copied the "first person shooter' aspect of it, down to the the gun being in the frame of the shooter POV shots.

But I'm not into FPS games, so what do I know?


DebetEsse - Sep 30, 2005 8:15:20 pm PDT #5378 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Tommy, I thought that, too. But it didn't get a laugh in my crowd


amych - Sep 30, 2005 8:16:27 pm PDT #5379 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Honestly? I've seen a lot of people (not just here -- in fact, mostly not here) that the things that sucked, sucked because you have to make concessions to the people who didn't watch the show. I'm not buying it -- I have a wall full of movies and several rooms full of books where absolutely everybody had to be brought up to speed, because nobody knew the characters in advance, and they still managed to be complex and layered and and plotty and beautiful. That's what you're supposed to do with your two hours -- you don't take out all the meat and leave the black-and-white, the flat, the Action!Simon. It's as insulting to the non-fans as it is to the fans, and it's shitty storytelling from someone who could make the same 'verse so utterly compelling the FF ep "Serenity".


tommyrot - Sep 30, 2005 8:19:04 pm PDT #5380 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Maybe Simon is really a Cylon, and there are multiple copies of him.


askye - Sep 30, 2005 8:24:10 pm PDT #5381 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I just came back from the seeing the movie. Twice.

I didn't mean to see it two times in a row. I went with my two friends, then as we left I saw someone in a Jayne hat. I had to go ask if he bought it or someone made it. His friend had, who was there. We started talking. My friends left and I chatted with these various people. The person who knitted the hat also made a really cute Jayne hat ipod cover. She's going to be posting the pattern for it sometime soon in the lj knitting comm.

I was totally chatty cathy, they wanted to know where I got my Blue Sun tshirt and then I ended up going back in and watching the movie with them. It was very interesting.

The second time there was more cheering and laughing and gasping. Especially on the Wash's death. It's amazing how fast your reaction can change.

As for the movie. Even though I knew the big Wash spoiler I tried to avoid everything else because I didn't want to know. The first time I saw it I hated all of the retconning of Simon and River. I was fully prepared to hate the movie because it bugged me so much. But then I started liking it more and really enjoyed it.

THere were tons of things I loved, and if I weren't so tired I could probably name them, nice little touches like when they come back from the original job and Jayne's there with his leg and everyone walks around him or over him or just ignores him. I liked the fight scenes.

I noticed that Jewel Staite has lost weight since the series, it kept kind of throwing me off because Kaylee was thinner. Some of tension between Simon and Mal bugged him, especially Mal saying Simon wasn't part of his crew,etc, since I thought by the end of the series they had established that Mal was accepting them.

Joss really should have cut back on the dialect/slang stuff, it was jus way too much at times. I'm speaking as someone who loves the way they talk. It seemed like it was heavy handed about Zoe and Wash being married, plus she didn't say Sir enough.

And the weird thing that kept bugging me was the colors. The movie was very cool colors, gray and blues and greens, and on the series it's more warm colors, tans, and browns, etc.

One of the guys I was with on the second viewing had the theory that Wash and Book died because Alan Tudyk and Ron Glass are the only two with "real careers" and probably wouldn't be available in the future.


Atropa - Sep 30, 2005 8:29:38 pm PDT #5382 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Back from movie.

... I feel really, really silly for saying this, but I have to: a lot of my enjoyment of the movie is gone due to Wash's death. I understand the narrative reasoning behind it, but.

shrugs

I can't really explain it. I'm not going to turn into one of the insane "OMG YOU KILLED!" -kittenboard people, but Wash's death did take a large chunk out of my "Yay Movie!" glow.


Kathy A - Sep 30, 2005 8:31:17 pm PDT #5383 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

It seemed like it was heavy handed about Zoe and Wash being married, plus she didn't say Sir enough.

I have read I don't know how many reviews that said that the marriage was something they totally didn't catch in the film. My response is, "How many times does Wash have to call Zoe 'wife' or Zoe refer to Wash as 'my husband' before people pay attention?"


askye - Sep 30, 2005 8:36:36 pm PDT #5384 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Were these people not watching the movie when Wash and Zoe were together?

I dind't really read the review that the paper ran, I know it wasn't really positive. I didn't want to be more spoiled, but I did catch at the very end where the reviewer called the movie predictable in many ways and cited Mal and Inara's relationship as part of the predictablity. I need to go back and read the review tomorrow and see what it all says.


bon bon - Sep 30, 2005 8:36:58 pm PDT #5385 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

After reading the Edelstein review where he cops to not knowing about the marriage, I was listening for that. Zoe's first line is something about her husband but they called each other "baby" after that, IIRC.


Lee - Sep 30, 2005 8:41:44 pm PDT #5386 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Like last time, I decided I didn't want to see Wash die, so I didn't.