I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Mr. Broom - Sep 27, 2005 11:05:39 pm PDT #5152 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I noticed that the head cop said "You mean my reward for apprehending the three fugitives" (emphasis added).
I assumed that it meant he was adding Jayne as an accomplice.


Kristen - Sep 28, 2005 12:53:13 am PDT #5153 of 10001

A nice interview with Chris Buchanan is up at Development-Hell.com. He also (very) briefly mentions the project he's working on with Tim.


Tom Scola - Sep 28, 2005 2:56:01 am PDT #5154 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Can a failed TV show spawn a successful film?

Police Squad.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 28, 2005 2:59:04 am PDT #5155 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Serenity not doing well at Rotten Tomatoes (currently 57%).

It's up to 63% today (no longer in the "Rotten" category). Plus, there are only 8 reviews being counted toward that %.

This one from Slant brings up one point I am concerned about (but can't unknow the show, so to speak):

The storyline is fairly easy enough to follow, but you get a sense that the movie needs to be seen within the context of the show; not only is there an overwhelming feeling that the events in the film take place in the middle of something much bigger, but Whedon assumes his audience is familiar enough with the Serenity crew that he can skimp on the niceties of character development. What we have here, then, is a bunch of galaxy-bouncing rebels whose relationships to one another are as thin as cardboard and whose existential struggles are reduced to pat one-word signifiers like Love and Pride.

But then he follows it up with this, and makes me wonder if we saw the same movie:

From the awkward pacing of the thing to the Star Trek-style design of ship interiors and the Jetsons-meets-Flintstones décor of earthbound edifices, this is UPN-style storytelling and aesthetics trying to pass as serious filmmaking.

He goes on to say some very positive things on some of the plot specifics, but the above just sounds like a cheap shot at the Buffyverse shows.


§ ita § - Sep 28, 2005 5:19:49 am PDT #5156 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hie thee to B'cacy, since a discussion on where movie talk goes after the 30th has just started there.

So far, the options are -- in Spoilers for a couple months, or in here blackfont after the 17th of October.


Emily - Sep 28, 2005 5:29:23 am PDT #5157 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Star Trek-style design of ship interiors

Which Star Trek was this reviewer watching, the short-lived Star Trek on the Prairie?

"I canna make the ship go any faster, cap'n, unless you ask your Paw for some dilithium crystals and a new butter churn."


Frankenbuddha - Sep 28, 2005 5:45:53 am PDT #5158 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Which Star Trek was this reviewer watching, the short-lived Star Trek on the Prairie?

Yeah, that was a big WTF when I read that. The only Trek show that came close to consistently having interiors like the ships in FIREFLY/SERENITY was DS9, and those were the station's, not the ships'.


Kalshane - Sep 28, 2005 5:46:13 am PDT #5159 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Which Star Trek was this reviewer watching, the short-lived Star Trek on the Prairie?

I was wondering that too, and then I thought well, the inside of the Alliance ships are somewhat Star Trek-y but considering the name-sake of the movie is very non-Star Trek, it's an unwarranted criticism.

I am still annoyed, though, that the color scheme of the show was very brown, while the movie is very blue, which I suppose could contribute to the feeling of Trekkitude.


tommyrot - Sep 28, 2005 6:22:27 am PDT #5160 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I am still annoyed, though, that the color scheme of the show was very brown, while the movie is very blue, which I suppose could contribute to the feeling of Trekkitude.

At least it wasn't green, because that would have meant it was happening in the Matrix.


Sean K - Sep 28, 2005 7:05:31 am PDT #5161 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think (but don't know for fact) that browns and reds are going to look better on the small screen, and crappier on the big screen, while blues are better looking on the big screen.