To be fair, Kaylee managed a bit of a smile. Granted, it was shocky and weak, but ... oh wait. That was utterly appropriate and believable.
Jewel is *so* my TV girlfriend.
ION, did y'all see this?
As Willow goes, so goes my nation.
Oz ,'Selfless'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
tianxiaode - Feb 03, 2005 8:24:25 am PST #493 of 10001
Adrian Pasdar: bringing hot (and ambiguously gay) to a new level since Top Gun.
tommyrot - Feb 03, 2005 8:29:45 am PST #494 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
ION, did y'all see this?
That was posted in Minearverse yersterday. There was discussion, and the author of that piece showed up and joined in.
-t - Feb 03, 2005 8:30:53 am PST #495 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Don't the first ten count as early?
I stand by my disagreeing with OSC, though. He must not have the cute-girl-good-with-machinery-GUH! reaction that I do, 'cuz i never found Kaylee annoying.
JZ - Feb 03, 2005 8:33:09 am PST #496 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
tiaxiaode, heh. That's actually being discussed over in Minearverse, and the columnist is a brand-new Buffista.
Nilly - Feb 03, 2005 8:37:15 am PST #497 of 10001
Swouncing
That was posted in Minearverse yersterday
Allyson "The Minearverse 3: The Network Is a Harsh Mistress" Feb 2, 2005 6:44:34 am PST
Jars - Feb 03, 2005 8:47:55 am PST #498 of 10001
I have to say, it took me a while to warm up to Kaylee properly, and she's still probably my least favourite character. That's got nothing to do with Jewel Staite though, and more to do with my intolerence for cheerful people.
Zenkitty - Feb 03, 2005 1:44:43 pm PST #499 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
It was the "Engines make her HOT" scene that allowed me to finally really connect with Kaylee and "get" her. Now I want to fiercely protect her from all evil. Kaylee has no inner conflicts, no inner demons, she knows who she is and likes herself; having no anger, she projects none onto her world or the people in it.
In defense of this post, I am slightly drunk and have been talking Freud and Jung all afternoon.
Tamara - Feb 03, 2005 1:52:23 pm PST #500 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
In OIS Kaylee is the only one with no secrets. She just is.
Can someone please post what I mean more eloquently.
Thank you.
Nilly - Feb 03, 2005 1:56:34 pm PST #501 of 10001
Swouncing
I'm doing something not-so-polite and quoting myself ( Nilly "Firefly 3: Too Damned Pretty to Die" Aug 10, 2004 5:25:01 am PDT):
If I'm not mistaken, the only one that River didn't get a different-than-what-I'm-really-saying-right-now line from, was Kaylee. Is it that with Kaylee it's so very much "what you see is what you get", no dark secrets, no shadowed corners of the soul? Or does it have anything to do with Kaylee seemingly being the only one who connected to River as River, not any other adjective that any other members of the crew may have used? Or that the two are connected? Or does it have anything to do with the way Kaylee tried to distance herself from River after "War Stories", and now either she closed herself up or River tries to be considerate and not reach out to her too much, sensing her fear, the dryness of the friendship that started to bloom between them? Obviously, I have no idea. I just thought it was such a lovely touch.
Beverly - Feb 03, 2005 2:04:17 pm PST #502 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
Kaylee is very young. She comes from a backwater planet.
Heh. Anne W and I once did a "counterpart" thing for each of the characters, who they'd have been in high school, what IRL background each of them came from.
Kaylee grew up in a farming community in 1950s Nebraska. Her daddy ran the local gas station and auto repair. He had the only tow truck for forty miles. His wife died when their youngest, Kaylee, was about ten. Kaylee's older brothers all played football, but didn't go on to college. They took jobs at the Safeway Foods or the new textile plant, got married to the girls they dated in high school, joined the church, had kids, and lived pretty much the life their folks lived before them.
Kaylee was mechanically gifted from an early age. She was a tomboy, and remembered her mom smelling wonderful and looking happy every anniversary when she and Kaylee's dad went out dancing, but she never had that experience of dressing up for the prom, wearing high heels, putting her hair up. The boys in her class who might have noticed she was a girl were too intimidated by her brothers to ask her out for dates. But they didn't mind hanging around the gas station and taking her out to the lake for beers and recreation.
Now Bender walked into the gas station looking for spare parts. He spotted her, all cute and curious, and asked her if she wanted to see a spaceship. Of course she did. And suddenly she has a job doing something she's good at, and a chance to ramble around the 'verse, meet all kinds of people, see all kinds of new places...
It's all an adventure to Kaylee. She's open to pretty much everything but meanness. And something mean enough, with enough direct menace, will overwhelm her. But otherwise, she's happy to be out of the little crossroads town and the gas station and the dead-end life after high school.