It must have been, because they bumped it up in the shooting order to have it be the last episode.
Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.
Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Dana - Feb 02, 2005 5:43:17 am PST #475 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 02, 2005 5:47:40 am PST #476 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Am I remembering right that "The Message" was the last one they shot?
Nilly - Feb 02, 2005 5:51:53 am PST #477 of 10001
Swouncing
Am I remembering right that "The Message" was the last one they shot?
Yup. The got the word of cancellation while shooting it.
beathen - Feb 02, 2005 6:03:21 am PST #478 of 10001
Sure I went over to the Dark Side, but just to pick up a few things.
Am I remembering right that "The Message" was the last one they shot?
Yup. The got the word of cancellation while shooting it.
You also know this was the last because in the interview with the composer he mentioned that the song at the end of the episode was more geared towards the sadness of the ending of the series rather than the funeral.
xnera - Feb 02, 2005 7:24:56 am PST #479 of 10001
I delurk, therefore I am.
Many of the shooting scripts have the episode # (may or may not equal episode # as aired; writing order isn't always the same as intended airing order) and revision dates on them, which will at least tell you when they were written (which again, may vary from the order they were shot/aired). You can find the scripts at [link]
DavidS - Feb 02, 2005 8:30:31 am PST #480 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Has anybody mentioned that Joss and the cast of Serenity will be appearing at Wondercon here in San Francisco? February 18-20. Moscone Center.
Other guests include:
Neal Adams
Sergio Aragonés
Brian Michael Bendis
John Cassaday
Amanda Conner
Arnold Drake
Mark Evanier
Adam Hughes
Jimmy Palmiotti
Harvey Pekar
Alex Ross
Gail Simone
Jeff Smith
Kevin Smith
William Stout
Arthur Suydam
Una - Feb 02, 2005 12:59:08 pm PST #481 of 10001
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.
*considers dropping out of grad school and moving to SF*
arby - Feb 03, 2005 4:00:02 am PST #482 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
Thanks for the info, guys. What set me to wondering was I saw the RQG:
RIVER
She understands. She doesn't comprehend.
And for some reason it made me feel like a stunned Joss was saying those words in response to Firefly's cancellation.
arby - Feb 03, 2005 4:01:53 am PST #483 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)
BWAH HA HA HA reading the shooting script - I don't even remember this exchange (I obviously need to see OiS again!!):
JAYNE
Wha -- are you-are you sayin' she's a witch?
WASH
Yes, Jayne. She's a witch. She has had congress with the beast.
JAYNE
She's in Congress?
WASH
How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious.
sumi - Feb 03, 2005 5:24:07 am PST #484 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Here is the Firefly part of this Orson Scott Card review column:
It only lasted one year on Fox, but Firefly was, in my opinion, the best space-opera sci-fi series ever on television, and you can get the whole season now on DVD.
I was stunned by the stupidity of the bad reviews this series got. I suppose if you think television should be Desperate Housewives or Felicity or some other thing that passes for "edgy," Firefly won't look good to you.
But the writing is witty, just a little tongue-in-cheek, and keenly aware of what good science fiction is supposed to be.
Though I could make a good case for Firefly being the best western on television since Maverick.
It's fun even as it's tense, and it's smart all the time. So smart that some reviewers have no clue what they're seeing.
The actors are wonderful, though a couple of characters can be annoying, especially at first (couldn't Jewel Staite have occasionally stopped smiling idiotically during the early episodes?).
Adam Baldwin, whose career began in the great high school movie My Bodyguard back in 1980, finally has the role of his career.
Gina Torres, a survivor of the Matrix sequels, is boldly credible as soldier-of-fortune Zoe; Morena Baccarin is luminous as the "companion" (i.e., really expensive prostitute) Inara Serra; and Alan Tudyk, a hit in A Knight's Tale, is equally charming as the pilot, Wash.
Delightful as Ron Glass was on Barney Miller and The New Odd Couple, I think he's got his best role here as the enigmatic preacher. While Sean Maher has recovered from the debacle of the remake of Brian's Song to play a truly complicated (and really cute, my wife tells me) character.
And Nathan Fillion rises out of nowhere -- small forgettable parts where he was little more than a pretty face -- to show that he has the strength to carry a tv series.
They're making a movie called Serenity, to be released next September, and the whole cast will appear in it. Count on it getting bad reviews; go anyway. And prepare for it by buying or renting the Firefly DVDs.