Xander ,'End of Days'
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Zoe's just a normal woman who fights. Not a member of a warrior race, just some chick with skills.
I assume Major Kira wasn't quite warrior enough, then?
Damn, now I want more of Zoe's (well... and everybody else's) backstory. How did she get the skills? Did she decide to get them or did she need to get them?
Other than the insane vengeful slave thing (which could count as conflicts coming from other things), Justine from AtS seems to fit the criteria.
Other than the insane vengeful slave thing (which could count as conflicts coming from other things), Justine from AtS seems to fit the criteria.
I don't think she meets the second - she's doing this because she's fucked up.
Oops. Misread.
I think the fucked upedness falls into my apart from clause.
I think she is at ease with the fighting; she's just driven by anger, unlike Zoe.
I don't think she meets the second - she's doing this because she's fucked up.
Yeah, I would definitely say she was not at ease with it.
I assume Major Kira wasn't quite warrior enough, then?
Little Miss anger issues? Fighting against the race that sold her people into slavery?
I'm sure it could turn out that Zoe went into the army because her family's plantation was razed to the ground and it was a reaction that drove her to violent works.
But I don't want it to be that way. I want it to be on a level of whatever with Wash being a pilot or Kaylee being a mechanic.
Just a thing.
Don't get me wrong -- I like a lot of these women (Justine rocks), but their fighting because of something exceptional -- a birthright, a trauma, whatever.
Zoe just fights.
You know why the series centers around Mal and not Zoe? Because Zoe is sane and well-adjusted.
You know why the series centers around Mal and not Zoe? Because Zoe is sane and well-adjusted.
Heh, I was thinking about how Mal had serious issues vis-a-vis the discussion in Natter (or maybe Bitches?) where Farscape was being pimped and how Crichton starts out with pretty much zero issues and we get too see how all of them develop.
But Mal's not crazy. He ... he's ... I dunno. He has problems with some stuff (unlike his laissez-faire until action is required second in command), but they're in a mundane scale. He's a browncoat, and pissy about it, and he has contempt for Companions (though I think it's, at least by HoG, more of his inability to deal with liking Inara than anything else).
So he has a firm political stance, and isn't good with the ladies when something might actually be at stake, including re-evaluating his world view.
Normal stuff.
Crichton, OTOH, is more like a Mal/River love child. And damn, did I ever gross myself out typing that.
Mal is not crazy; he is bitter. Possibly maladjusted, but definitely bitter.
Crichton isn't well-and-truly crazy till middle of S2, and never is he well-and-truly sane again. Still, that first 1.5 seasons of watching the Big Man on Campus get his head twaddled with was pretty entertaining in its own right.