Definitely.
Also, in the Serenity book thing, Joss says Universal was on board before the DVD sales for Firefly was available. I'm confused as to how many version of the events I've seen now. He doesn't mention the millions of fans, though.
I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.
Buffy ,'Showtime'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Kevin - Aug 20, 2005 3:12:01 pm PDT #4396 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Kiba Rika - Aug 20, 2005 3:13:45 pm PDT #4397 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Sounds to me (as if we ever really doubted) that Allyson is 100% spot-on with her assessment. Serenity is a bone (a delectable one, I think) that Universal threw Joss.
Topic!Cindy - Aug 20, 2005 3:44:02 pm PDT #4398 of 10001
What is even happening?
Marketing machine likes to use fandom to its advantage but doesn't bother paying attention to the history of it?Well, not for nothing, it seems like Joss, or someone who works for him, ought to have thought of Kristen and Allyson (and you for that matter, but you're not in L.A.).
Scrappy - Aug 20, 2005 4:27:16 pm PDT #4399 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Allyson is 100% spot-on with her assessment
I don't agree. I think Universal wanted to work with Joss partly because he has a devoted fanbase. That makes him a better bet financially, and studios are all about the cha-ching. The most talented filmaker in the world won't get hired if his films don't sell tickets and crap filmmakers (like the tools who turn out the Adam Sandler films) get paid big bucks because they have a "following." So I agree with Allyson that the fans were not the reason the movie got made, but they WERE a factor in why they wanted to be in business with Joss in the first place.
Kristen - Aug 20, 2005 4:44:07 pm PDT #4400 of 10001
it seems like Joss, or someone who works for him, ought to have thought of Kristen and Allyson (and you for that matter
Don't cry for me, Topic!Cindy. The truth is...
Well, the truth is that it's not a big deal. It's mostly a source of amusement to me at this point.
Also, I should say that there are people, who used to work for J. Weewee, that do think of us. (And think rather highly of us, no less.) So no worries.
ETA: Oooooh. Look. I'm a 4400. Do I get special powers?
Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 20, 2005 5:35:18 pm PDT #4401 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Careful, you might end up babysitting Dakota Fanning instead.
Gris - Aug 20, 2005 5:40:22 pm PDT #4402 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Dakota Fanning is almost approaching the age I can stop being terrified of her.
In a year she'll be 12. I've known 12-year-olds who seemed much older than that age, and have gotten along with them fine. If she continues acting well, I may even be a huge fan of hers in 4 or 5 years.
Though that's unlikely unless she does some TV for a while. TV is where my heart grows fanly.
KernelM - Aug 21, 2005 1:38:48 am PDT #4403 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World
J. Weewee???
Also, Universal being on board before DVD sales has been said and repeated for a long time.
Theodosia - Aug 21, 2005 1:58:25 am PDT #4404 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
J. Weewee
I believe this is a call-back to a discussion in Natter about Sean Combs declaring he would be henceforth known as "Diddy", which evolved (as they so often do) to speculation about Mr. Whedon's preferential hip-hop name.
Nilly - Aug 21, 2005 2:42:12 am PDT #4405 of 10001
Swouncing