You fucking bastard.
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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
My work here is done.
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I heard the song from the first Serenity trailer (Kasabian, "Club Foot") on the radio today!
Entertainment Weekly's Fall Movie Preview has both a short blurb with an adorable quote from Summer:
"I said, 'If you have to recast me with Winona Ryder, or some kind of "star," tell me. I'm ready for it,'" says Glau. "But no, he wanted me, thank God."
and a three-page article with a picture spread of the cast. EW responds to a recent topic of conversation:
There's a lot of heavy lifting involved, trying to explain a sci-fi Western in which cowboys giddyap on space freighters, fire Winchesters, and curse so damned much. In Chinese. (In case you're wondering why Fox canceled the series after 11 low-rated episodes, now you know.)
It's a nice little article, and not spoilery except for a one-line summary of the plot which can be gleaned from the trailers or, I don't know, having watched the show.
I think that it's pretty obvious that, without the fans showing their support, both verbally (letters, websites, etc) and, FAR more importantly, financially, the movie would not have come to pass.
Mother's milk leads to heroin.
If there hadn't been a loyal fanbase, Joss may have dropped the whole thing and crawled into bed licking his wounds for a year.
But "the dedication of Firefly fans" didn't make the movie. Universal's business decision to drop 40 million on the joss to woo him from 20th made the movie.
From the aforementioned article:
"I was a Whedon stalker," laughs Mary Parent, Universal's now-outgoing vice chairman of production, who dug Whedon's vision and no-surrender passion. She also recognized a potentially marketable Cinderella story. A modestly budgeted film, Parent believed, was a gamble worth taking, and in September 2003, Universal optioned the rights from Fox. "I thought this band of underdogs could make for a cool movie," she says. "But I did want to see a script first."
But perhaps the dedication of the Firefly fans was one of the things that made Universal think that dropping 40 million on the joss would be a reasonable business decision.
I don't get it, P-C, is that supposed to prove me wrong or something?
But perhaps the dedication of the Firefly fans was one of the things that made Universal think that dropping 40 million on the joss would be a reasonable business decision.
Well sure. I don't think that they'd give Joss 40 to pop a zit on his ass for 75 minutes. (which isn't to compare Serenity to ass puss)
Don't get me wrong. I don't think they'd have greenlit anything that wouldn't return the investment, and obviously, there's a large enough fanbase for them to turn a profit on the film.
But it wasn't like, "omigod, Firefly fans ARE SO AWESOME AND DEDICATED! Let's call Joss and give him money!"
I don't get it, P-C, is that supposed to prove me wrong or something?
No, it's supposed to prove you right.
I don't get it, P-C, is that supposed to prove me wrong or something?
I thought it was supposed to prove you right, but maybe I'm misreading. I think it shows that 1. this was about a Universal exec, not a vocal fanbase 2. that while it wasn't about the fanbase, the fanbase part makes a good story, which makes good copy, which, the exec hopes, will make good money 3. that it is more about business with Joss than anything else. All of which are points I've seen you (and Kristen, too, I think) make repeatedly.
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