Nandi: I ain't her. Mal: Only people in this room is you and me.

'Heart Of Gold'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


evil jimi - Aug 10, 2005 3:26:23 am PDT #4132 of 10001
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Yeah but Mal makes the distinction between the job and the person. He's openly said he considers companions and whores one in the same and has no real respect for all the frou frou surrounding companions--except where/when it can make him a profit. However, that doesn't mean he doesn't respect Inara the female person. The john in "Serenity", the father in "Jaynestown", the Boss Hog in "Heart of Gold", "Ath Wing", none of them respected the female person but they did have a grudging respect for the position b/c they felt it denoted some sort of status to be seen with, or fuck, a companion.


Gandalfe - Aug 10, 2005 3:46:38 am PDT #4133 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

There are no horses in space.

But there are cows.


Beverly - Aug 10, 2005 3:50:08 am PDT #4134 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

But there are cows.

True! So why is there no complaining about the cows, huh? Wouldn't you think people who are so averse to "a space western" would complain about *cows* in space, which would imply cow*boys* in space? But no, it's all, "no horses in space!"

Personally, I think it's that shot in the credits of Serenity buzzing the remuda. Just, nobody stops to think that the horses were running on terra firma. Or whateverplanet firma.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 10, 2005 3:52:16 am PDT #4135 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So silly. Everyone knows the only animals in space are pigs.

Which reminds me again I need to pick up the Muppet Show 1st season that just came out.


Nilly - Aug 10, 2005 4:08:15 am PDT #4136 of 10001
Swouncing

Wouldn't you think people who are so averse to "a space western" would complain about *cows* in space, which would imply cow*boys* in space? But no, it's all, "no horses in space!"

Beverly, I love your rant.

Personally, I think it's that shot in the credits of Serenity buzzing the remuda.

Oh, I absolutely love that shot. The combination of old and new, the technology and the alive, while both of them look alive, in a way. The smooth bow trail of the ship, the flow forward - I absolutely love that shot.


sumi - Aug 10, 2005 4:34:32 am PDT #4137 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

No, there were some cattle in space. . . remember?


Connie Neil - Aug 10, 2005 4:35:24 am PDT #4138 of 10001
brillig

I think it's that shot in the credits of Serenity buzzing the remuda.

I always think "people who stampede the stock need shot."


§ ita § - Aug 10, 2005 4:41:40 am PDT #4139 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

More than people who steal and cheat?


Connie Neil - Aug 10, 2005 4:44:10 am PDT #4140 of 10001
brillig

More than people who steal and cheat?

Heavens, no, it's just another line on the list. I grew up in farm country, and anything that messed with the stock was very frowned upon.

edit: it was a quick way to lose your dog, if it was found to be "running" the sheep.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 10, 2005 4:46:22 am PDT #4141 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't think they really ever fully fleshed out *cringe* the mythology surrounding companions, or at least I was never satisfied by it. I think it is possible that it sounded [cool, modern, liberal, sex positive -- insert your positive modifier of choice here_________] to have sex workers hold an esteemed, ambassadorial sort of position. But in practice, she was just a highly paid prostitute with requisite heart of gold, and she filled the Saloon Girl/Belle Watling role. Perhaps Mal's POV on it is too like society's for it to play any other way? Perhaps it didn't work because Mal is often the character wrestling (rasslin'?) with matters of conscience.