Willow: Something evil-crashed to earth in this. Then it broke out and slithered away to do badness. Giles: Well, in all fairness, we don't really know about the "slithered" part. Anya: No, no, I'm sure it frisked about like a fluffy lamb.

'Never Leave Me'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


victor infante - Jan 10, 2005 10:09:05 am PST #329 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm wondering how it ended up in this thread...

Well, you know, once the boobies invade, you can never go back. Take Janet Jackson, for example...


tommyrot - Jan 10, 2005 10:10:24 am PST #330 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I wanna see this:

in fact there are an equal number of integers and rational numbers.

explained. Because it seems to me that the set of all integers would be a non-trivial subset of the set of all rational numbers.

eta: Oh, I found a proof: [link]

eta2: It says

The set Q of all rational numbers is equivalent to the set N of all integers.

Does "equivelent" here mean the same thing as "there are an equal number"? I don't think so....


KernelM - Jan 10, 2005 10:25:46 am PST #331 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Whew, saved me from typing out a whole lot of stuff. They're just using lazy notation. Usually, equivalent in mathematics means isomorphic, which has different meanings in different contexts.

Now, if you really want to get your mind blown, look at the Banach-Tarski Paradox or the Continuum Hypothesis.


-t - Jan 10, 2005 10:31:23 am PST #332 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Does "equivelent" here mean the same thing as "there are an equal number"? I don't think so....

You can put them into a one-to-one correspondence, which can be thought of as having the same number. Counting things is just a matter of putting the things in question into a one-to-one corespondence with a set of known ordinality (like the natural numbers less than or equal to 10, for example). This is an extension of that concept into the infinite realm. One definition of an infinite set is a set that can be put into a one-to-one correspondence with a proper subset of itself.

My unfinished master's thesis was on Georg Cantor. I can go on and on.


KernelM - Jan 10, 2005 10:33:41 am PST #333 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

One definition of an infinite set is a set that can be put into a one-to-one correspondence with a proper subset of itself.

Leading to this your mama's joke I found here: your mama's so fat she has a proper subgroup isomorphic to herself


tommyrot - Jan 10, 2005 10:54:26 am PST #334 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

∞∈{things that are cool}


Frankenbuddha - Jan 10, 2005 11:07:17 am PST #335 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

A boobie meara (not to be confused in any way with a meara boobie):

A positive boobie + a negative boobie does not cancel out to zero boobies. The sum would be two boobies. and the world rejoices.

Good thing boobies aren't like matter/anti-matter or the universe would explode.

They must be evil twins.

They do tend to come in pairs.

A boobie is a boobie is a boobie.

"Sometimes a boobie is just a boobie." I think Freud came up with that around the time he came up with the theory of "bosom envy".


DavidS - Jan 10, 2005 11:10:22 am PST #336 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Leading to this your mama's joke I found here: your mama's so fat she has a proper subgroup isomorphic to herself

Heh. "Your mama's pegleg got a kick stand on it / Yer mama, yer mama, yer mama, yer mama..."


Gris - Jan 10, 2005 2:24:03 pm PST #337 of 10001
Hey. New board.

t nerd

This is the best thread EVER.

Also, I totally knew that ∞ + 1 was countable. But the context clearly implied that he wanted something bigger for Out of Gass than Objects in Space, so I did the only thing my math allowed and elevated the cardinalities.

And now I'm trying to remember the proof that real numbers are uncountable. I think I may have done something before that proved that the irrational numbers between 0 and 1 were uncountable, which is clearly a sufficient proof, but I don't remember how I did it exactly.

Internet!


Hil R. - Jan 10, 2005 2:32:07 pm PST #338 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And now I'm trying to remember the proof that real numbers are uncountable. I think I may have done something before that proved that the irrational numbers between 0 and 1 were uncountable, which is clearly a sufficient proof, but I don't remember how I did it exactly.

The simplest proof that I can remember right now is to assume that they are countable, and give some enumeration of them. Then you can make a real number by putting in the tenths place any digit but what's there in the first real number in your enumeration, putting in the hundredths place anything but the hundredths digit in your second real number, and so on. You end up creating a real number between 0 and 1 that can't possibly be in your enumeration.