What'd you all order a dead guy for?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


tommyrot - Jun 17, 2005 12:07:39 pm PDT #3160 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So, the bootlegger's reverse is the car version of the Crazy Ivan?

Pretty much, yeah.

You all know where the term 'Crazy Ivan' came from, right? Soviet submarines would pull that maneuver when they suspected that an American sub was tailing them. (In a submarine, the prop noise makes it impossible to tell if something's directly behind you.)


tommyrot - Jun 17, 2005 12:08:22 pm PDT #3161 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Sweet. I need to talk some crazy hotheaded hot guy into trying it now.

It might be best to practice in a large, empty parking lot.


Gandalfe - Jun 17, 2005 12:09:37 pm PDT #3162 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

So, the bootlegger's reverse is the car version of the Crazy Ivan?

Well, of course, Crazy Ivan is a US Navy term for a Soviet submarine maneuver, characterized by any number of sudden and sharp turns, used by submarine crews to "look behind" them. (This verbiage stolen heavy handedly from The Wiki.) Was that what they called the stunt in Serenity? I could have sworn there was another (similar) name for it.


Emily - Jun 17, 2005 12:10:02 pm PDT #3163 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

What, you think we're some kind of cultural illiterates? I'll have you know I saw The Hunt for Red October several times! I would have liked to have seen Montana.


tommyrot - Jun 17, 2005 12:11:30 pm PDT #3164 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

What, you think we're some kind of cultural illiterates? I'll have you know I saw The Hunt for Red October several times! I would have liked to have seen Montana.

Well, you know, just in case one or two folks haven't seen it....


Emily - Jun 17, 2005 12:13:07 pm PDT #3165 of 10001
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Soy'ooz neroosh'imi resp'ooblik svob'odnikh
Splot'ila nav'eki vel'ikaia Rus!


brenda m - Jun 17, 2005 12:15:24 pm PDT #3166 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

And what was the thing they did in Top Gun?


Ginger - Jun 17, 2005 12:26:50 pm PDT #3167 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I've done a bootlegger's turn. My ex the police detective showed me how. It would take money, alcohol and freedom to mock to make me see The Dukes of Hazard in any form.

I do, however, have a ticket to the preview, thanks to Bicyclops.


DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 12:27:12 pm PDT #3168 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Aside from being in the EW must see list, Serenity/Firefly also appears on the front page of TV Guide it appears.

Well, that might have something to do with Buffistas working as writers at both EW and TV Guide.


DavidS - Jun 17, 2005 12:27:56 pm PDT #3169 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've done a bootlegger's turn.

And yet you can't walk out your front door without breaking a tooth.