One ! is clearly acceptable.
If n !'s are acceptable, n+1 !'s are also acceptable.
Therefore, by induction, both OiS and OoG can acceptably have an infinite number of !'s.
Jayne: What're you gonna tell the others? Mal: About what? Jayne: About why I'm dead. Mal: Hadn't thought about it. Jayne: Make something up. Don't tell 'em what I did.
'Ariel'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Gris - Jan 09, 2005 3:53:34 pm PST #272 of 10001
Hey. New board.
tommyrot - Jan 09, 2005 4:00:32 pm PST #273 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Except OoG should be able to have ∞+1 !'s.
Gris - Jan 09, 2005 4:03:23 pm PST #274 of 10001
Hey. New board.
Except OoG should be able to have ∞+1 !'s.
I'm not sure the induction hypothesis allows for uncountable infinties. You'll need to prove that by a more rigorous method. I'm thinking a proof by contradiction is almost sure to be your best bet.
"Assume OoG can only have a countable number of !'s, reasonably..."
You can take it from there.
KernelM - Jan 09, 2005 5:25:16 pm PST #275 of 10001
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World
You need to use transfinite induction just to get the first conclusion that you can get a countably infinite number of !s. Otherwise, regular induction only tells you that any finite number of !s is acceptable.
For an uncountable number of !s, yes, contradiction might work.
Maybe some kind of triangulation argument.
DavidS - Jan 09, 2005 5:28:37 pm PST #276 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
This is a very Buffista discussion, I must say. All prompted by my casual comment about the necessary number of !s, and what is an extravagence. In short, not what was possible, but what was appropriate. What was in good taste. Where less is more. I say put on all the exclamation points you want, then look in the mirror and take one off.
SailAweigh - Jan 09, 2005 5:29:47 pm PST #277 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
We don't want !s with good taste, Hec. We want !s that taste good.
Ginger - Jan 09, 2005 5:36:55 pm PST #278 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
That depends on what you've spilled on your keyboard.
SailAweigh - Jan 09, 2005 5:46:06 pm PST #279 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
That depends on what you've spilled on your keyboard.
Don't you mean spit on your keyboard?
DCJensen - Jan 09, 2005 5:49:21 pm PST #280 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Loving multiple Firefly eps does not divide the love, it multiplies it.
Astarte - Jan 09, 2005 6:34:01 pm PST #281 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
I say put on all the exclamation points you want, then look in the mirror and take one off.
And I think I have a new tag, with your kind permission, Hecubus.