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Wesley: We were fighting on opposite sides, but it was the same war. Fred: but you hated her…didn't you? Wesley: It's not always about holding hands.
'Shells'
Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains
Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.
Kiba Rika - May 03, 2005 4:31:44 pm PDT #1873 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.
Kalshane - May 03, 2005 5:25:38 pm PDT #1874 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Just forwarded to me by a non-Buffista Mutant Enemy fanatic:
Bwah!
JenP - May 03, 2005 5:26:59 pm PDT #1875 of 10001
Ha! Funny, JZ.
Matt the Bruins fan - May 03, 2005 5:40:58 pm PDT #1876 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Well, before anyone strains themselves pooh-poohing the paid con experience as a crass waste of money, let me say that I considered mine well spent for getting to hang out with Bronzer friends and Angel-loving co-workers for a weekend, find a shirt printed with Jilli's cartoon doppelganger, attend a great concert, sit at a table with Camden Toy while he waxed enthusiastic about live theatre, and not only crack David Boreanaz up but also unwittingly spur him to call Christian Kane his bitch in front of about 3000 people. I have no regrets.
Tamara - May 03, 2005 6:14:28 pm PDT #1877 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Kiba, DragonCon won't be scary.
From my experience at Comic Con last year and WonderCon and WizardWorld this year, I have discovered that there is this great network called browncoats with cell phones.
It enables you to be constantly in the loop and never miss a thing.
I plan on putting it to good use.
Allyson - May 03, 2005 6:19:53 pm PDT #1878 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Matt, it's just that, if you do the math for the Angel Booster event, it's $720 to get it all.
And that's just so ridiculous to me. Add in hotel and airfare, and it just pains me, because it's so out of reach.
But my perspective is a little different in that I think the weekend is about making friends and hanging out. I like that the entire weekend isn't scheduled. People plan lunches and dinners and go off and explore the city in groups.
It's not that you're not getting your money's worth, the price above includes all the dinners and open bars.
I'm a bigger believer in cutting that stuff out to bring the price into a range that more fans can afford.
I'm also weirdly jaded. I'm not interested in the lines for pictures. I'm not interested in signings and Q&As. I'm interested on that moment when Greg Grunberg says, "hey, let's call your mom!"
At $300, I think it's more acceptable. $720 is rent.
But these are soley my issues, and i can see youir points and don't find them ugly or anything. I'm egalitarian about fan events. I love, LOVE, that I never had to pay anyone to show up and say hello to their fans. They come because they just really want to.
I love that at D:LA they all sort of shrugged off security and ran into the room with open arms.
I love the pics of Drew Goddard rolling around on the floor with fans at W&H.
It's better for me, as a fan. It's not the greatest thing for other fans.
Different strokes.
halfrek - May 03, 2005 6:46:06 pm PDT #1879 of 10001
The appearance of things change according to the emotions and thus we see magic and beauty in them,
while the magic and beauty are really in ourselves.--Kahlil Gibran
Allyson, i have been to paid cons and i have been to two of your events. and i totally prefer YOUR events.
for the reasons that you stated. you throw a wonderful time AND it is all about the fans being with fans. and if the VIPs should show up, great. and if they do show up, they are having a good time and WANT to be there and NOT b/c you paid them. i LIKE having the mingle time with them and the fans. and no lines per se, and fun all around. impromtu fun!
your events offer more than i have gotten at any other con. either here in the states or in England. and for way less. i have come to the conclusion that i would prefer to go to one or more of your events each year than to go to other cons.
simply put, i will continue to attend the events that you put on if i have the chance to do it. after this DLA thing, you have gained a lot of fans. their word of mouth stories have spread through LJ and various posting boards. you have done a great job.
(someone linked me to your post and i have not read all the previous ones so this next comment may be out of context from the discussion)
my understanding of the convo thus far is that you are wondering about doing your Serenity fan party. and something about a con. personally i would prefer YOURS over that. and the group that i attended DLA with sorta has your event penciled in. (penciled b/c we dont know the dates yet)
that is all i think.
(out of practice with the posting here. hope the post doesnt look more stupid than usual. *g*)
Tamara - May 03, 2005 7:18:00 pm PDT #1880 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Halfrek,
Tell her that we NEED her touch for the release date of Serenity.
Elais - May 03, 2005 7:42:41 pm PDT #1881 of 10001
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001
Allyson,
I agree with Halfrek on this. I've been to cons as well as the events you organized. I won't stop going to cons, but I'm feeling a bit of the been there done the photo/auto/dinner and I have to pony up for each one of those in order to meet the VIPs. And it's become way out of reach for a lot of people here in the US. I don't think it's quite so bad for the cons in the UK.
The W&H Review was more relaxed, fun, and sociable. If the VIPs come by, they can just hang with us, if not, there are so many fans/friends to be with anyway. And really, isn't that the point of fandom?
Una - May 03, 2005 7:58:26 pm PDT #1882 of 10001
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.
Kiba, no matter how good or bad the con is, you'll have a good time if you're hanging out with people you love. I almost always go to cons much more to be with people I never see otherwise (read: 'Net friends) than for the con itself. Though, meeting authors I love (and taking them out to lunch) and laughing riotously at "Star Wars in 30 Minutes" I wouldn't pass up either *grin*
And from all I've read while lurking, an Allyson (tm) Serenity party just might be enough to get me down to LA despite my small-town-girl never-wanting-to-visit-said-city. *starts eating catfood and saving pennies*