Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kiba Rika - May 03, 2005 11:05:24 am PDT #1843 of 10001
I may have to seize the cat.

Looked at the Angel thingy prices. Those are the most ridiculous prices I have seen that weren't on petroleum of some kind. Yeeka. I think I will skip all such events, thanks.

Dragon*Con, here I come!


Allyson - May 03, 2005 11:07:51 am PDT #1844 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm completely irrational. I'm so disturbed by this.

Also, if I was on the fence about doing the Serenity release party, I mean, this thing kills it altogether.

Can't compete.

I just don't like other people making these sorts of decisions for me, maybe.


§ ita § - May 03, 2005 11:08:29 am PDT #1845 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How is that competition? Not that I'm trying to talk you in, but isn't a movie celebration very different from that?


Allyson - May 03, 2005 11:11:36 am PDT #1846 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Fans will save their money for a guarantee of cast.

That's why those events are expensive. They pay appearance fees, and your dinner/drinks are included. It's not like, gouging, you do get what you pay for if they do as good a job as they claim they can (I think the upcoming Angel event is their first).

I don't pay appearance fees, I don't guarantee cast.


§ ita § - May 03, 2005 11:15:20 am PDT #1847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't pay appearance fees, I don't guarantee cast.

I guess. I don't know fandom budgeting, but it'd seem to me that people who could never afford those fees would like to see each other around when the movie's actually coming out, even without the cast guarantee.


libkitty - May 03, 2005 11:16:19 am PDT #1848 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I would prefer the party myself. I mean, seeing cast would be great, but hanging out with buffistas and other true fans, plus going as a group to cheer and act stupid (in the best possible way) at the premiere and attend the opening, plus possibly getting to do stuff around LA with buffistas, these things sound much more fun to me. I don't know how much this is worth, though, because I don't know if I would be able to make either one.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 03, 2005 11:43:36 am PDT #1849 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I went to the Angel Flashback Weekend event last year, which was very similar to what this event looks to be. It was a bit pricey, but aside from a few organizational screw-ups it was well done. Really more of a convention-type event than the fan party weekends that Allyson, Maya, and the Bronze PBP committee put on. There was a dealer room, multiple panel discussions with the cast, autograph and photo sessions, and a Kane concert.


Betsy HP - May 03, 2005 11:46:00 am PDT #1850 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

My Platonic fan-party has fans who will still be happy even if they talk to other fans and never get face time with a Big Name. (Although, admittedly, I was sad when I went to the LA F2F and barely got to say hi to ita, so there you are.)


Tamara - May 03, 2005 11:55:51 am PDT #1851 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Allyson, (x-post with the OB) insent


Allyson - May 03, 2005 11:56:14 am PDT #1852 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

If Mutant Boosters paid the entire cast of LOST to show up, they could charge $600 and D:LA would go away.

I'm not really broken hearted, I'm just oddly territorial. Peeing on the carpet isn't really going to help, since my heart wasn't in it.

If my heart was in it, there would be a throwdown to beat all throwdowns.