You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 31 But Looks 29  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Lee - Jan 15, 2005 10:05:25 am PST #6434 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Here, Emily Allyson "Natter 31 But Looks 29" Jan 15, 2005 8:47:02 am PST

shakes fist at P-C


amych - Jan 15, 2005 10:05:45 am PST #6435 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Lysana - Jan 15, 2005 10:52:13 am PST #6436 of 10002
Hellbound Equal-Opportunity Nookie Hog

The whole "why did God let this happen" question makes no sense to me. If you assume a creator or set of same, it follows to me that it's because that's how the world was designed. Every once in a while, Shit Happens. Sometimes it's really humongous, like a tsunami. How we react to it would seem more important to me.

And besides, from where I sit, loving someone doesn't mean you have to make everything gentle and soft for them. Sometimes, you have to get harsh. Sometimes, you end up hurting them as a side effect of doing something else that's important. The planet has to have earthquakes to get stuff like mountains. It's not the fault of people who don't believe or act the right way. We just happen to live on a geologically active planet with everything that entails.


brenda m - Jan 15, 2005 11:18:22 am PST #6437 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It's times like this that it's kind of a comfort not to believe in god, as I see people struggle to fit things like this into their worldview. Hmm. That sounds kind of weird. I mean that wth all respect, and I don't mean to suggest that the tragedy we've just seen doesn't have an impact on me, of course it does. But I can appreciate and feel the tragedy without having to grapple with that issue.

I will say that sometimes the shock with which some people react (to the god-related part of it) leaves me a little cold since, as Lysana notes, this is not the first thing to occur nor will it be the last, and for me, it seems strange when people respond as though the question of tragedy in a world of god is a new one. But it seems to me that most of the people who aren't trying to somehow capitalize on such an event just to push their own agenda don't fall into this category, and are honestly working to understand lessons this holds about the nature of their faith.


DavidS - Jan 15, 2005 11:24:00 am PST #6438 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mostly feel like anybody who finds tragedy a refutation of their god, simply hasn't bothered to think about their religious beliefs at all. Almost all religions arise exactly to address unimaginable tragedy. The Book of Job specifically addresses this. Buddhism's first notion is that life is suffering.


Burrell - Jan 15, 2005 12:21:11 pm PST #6439 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Happy Birthday, msbelle!

I think the people who have trouble reconciling God with tragedy are those who are really invested in both A) a God who is All Good and All Loving, and B) a God who is directly involved in human events. Because then suddenly you have to do mental backflips trying to turn tragedy into Good.


Lee - Jan 15, 2005 12:23:01 pm PST #6440 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Hi Burrell!


Burrell - Jan 15, 2005 12:25:57 pm PST #6441 of 10002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Hi Lee! I need to try to get some work done, but I hear Franny making cranky noises in the bedroom. Hrm.


Lee - Jan 15, 2005 12:29:33 pm PST #6442 of 10002
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I need to get some work done too, but I don't want to, so I am looking for Devil ducks.

So far, I have found these, [link] which I want.

eta: I don't like these [link] as much, but they come with their own theme songs.


Polter-Cow - Jan 15, 2005 12:35:24 pm PST #6443 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I have a Devil duck! It has spots. His name is Louis.