That garter would have to be tight enough to leave a line, in order to stay up, wouldn't it? That's not so sexy.

Whatever, ita. You're a hussy. Everyone says.

Exactly how old is old school, anyway?

In gothy/deathrock years? 1983-86.

Yeah. It's a stupid garter. I mean, Christ, think about how uncomfortable THIGH HIGHS are. They're either tight enough to stay up, which means sausage legs...or they fall down.

Which is undignified.

Are you talking about NST or panty lines?

EVERYTHING. Bra lines too. The edges of bra cups. The top of my tights/hose. I swear to god. I should wear no underwear at all. It seems to be the only way.

Everyone says.

Same everyone that says you're a cowgirl?

Same everyone that says you're a cowgirl?

No, I mean a completely different everyone.

Yeah. It's a stupid garter.

The bullshit consensus from the alt.gothic.fashion girls is that no matter how tight those garters are, the little pocket thingamie makes it slip down.

When I used to have long slim legs, thigh highs stayed up beautifully. I think they're designed for the Barbies among us.

These are supposed to be very comfy: [link]

I think well of VS Very Sexy bras. I don't need padding, God knows, except I don't want headlights flashing my student...or grocery clerks, for that matter. They're pretty, but low key and fit me well, at least.

I can wear thigh highs once or twice, and then the elastic expires.

eta:

The problem with (this has been bothering me all day, since my bra is lined) the lined ones is that the edge of the bra is completely visible through anything knit. I prefer my nipples, basically, because they're mine.

Erin, those panties are totally cute. As is practically everything on that site. Which reminds me, in that way that a thing can sometimes remind you of its complete and total opposite, of the lingerie shower I went to last weekend for my cousin who is a member of a FAC.

I was nervous about getting sexy underwear for a church girl, but gulped hard, steeled my nerves, and found her a pink-and-black bustier and matching panties, very womanly and retro and dead sexy but in a grown-up sort of "I am Woman, hear me roar, or, more specifically, I am Jean Harlow, hear me purr" way. It was all just terribly pretty and sensuous and she has a sensational body that I knew would look great in that, but I felt horribly nervous that it was way too risqué for an FAC virgin and I even wrote an apologetic "I hope this is okay and doesn't freak you out" note in the card.

And then when I got to the shower, it turned out that mine was one of the top three most tasteful and least hideous pieces of underwear anyone got her. All these FAC girls had run out and bought her pasties and fishnet bodysuits from Frederick's, thongs with marabou feather bunny tails from VS, and assorted other appalling garments that are just going to get worn once and then wadded up in a drawer and never spoken of again.

So now I'm all baffled. Is a lingerie shower supposed to be one long dirty joke where you get your friend the most whorish thing you can find instead of anything genuinely beautiful or sexy, even if that's the only shower she's getting (this was it for my cousin)? Or, I'm wondering whether devoutly FAC single women, having possibly less experience of the world of lingerie than other women, just get all overexcited at the thought that one of their own is finally going to get to have sex and run out and buy up all the naughtiest stuff they can find because they don't know any better?