My whole life just flashed before my eyes! I gotta get me a life!

Xander ,'Dirty Girls'


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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Jan 10, 2005 3:50:11 pm PST #4605 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Huh. At first, I was thinking that I luckily hadn't been exposed to much negative sexualization as a woman and as a child. I was starting to work out how I could feel minimalized by this, but then it occurred to me.

No, I do have an awareness of people around me in public areas that the SO does not have. And he feels no compunction about just talking to random people on the street, and the reason I don't doesn't just have to do with being introverted, it also has to do with being female.

I don't check the backseat or under the car, though I do get my keys out in order to move more quickly, and I do park under a light, without thinking about it.

And it wasn't until just now that I realized it, but I have had people complain about me not noticing them trying to get my attention in traffic. At the time I told them it was because I'm oblivious in traffic, that all the other cars are merely obstacles to my destination, but it's true that it's developed behavior because most of the time, I don't really want to respond to whatever the attention-getter is trying to say.

So, huh.


Betsy HP - Jan 10, 2005 3:51:05 pm PST #4606 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Yeah, I was down looking at the LA Times. Holy cow. Please be safe, LAistas.


sarameg - Jan 10, 2005 3:51:44 pm PST #4607 of 10002

Oops?

That road totally needs the roadsigns my dad procured for the observatory. Not the usual falling rock signs that usually just feature the rocks, this one had the car profile, with a rock headed down the cliffside at it. It was morbidly hilarious. And kept getting stolen (despite being on a fairly out of the way route) until they welded the damn thing to the post and put the post in concrete. I love that sign.


brenda m - Jan 10, 2005 3:53:49 pm PST #4608 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I was walking my dog once and a car was coming up the hill around a corner and a guy started yelling something out the window - not an uncommon thing along that road. I studiously ignored it, and thus didn't realize what he was saying until I rounded the corner and found myself in the middle of a dog v. deer showdown on the sidewalk.

(On both sides, it pretty much consisted of standing stock still and staring, but the dog could so easily have startled the deer out into traffic.)


amych - Jan 10, 2005 4:00:30 pm PST #4609 of 10002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

in order to move more quickly

This is a big part of it -- I remember being explicitly told to do the keys-in-a-claw thing in college, and I don't do it anymore, but the whole idea of getting TO the car, INTO the car, LOCK the car, START the car, without stopping to fuck around or dig in my bag is completely internalized. It drives me bugfuck when S. wants to stop and chat with someone with the door hanging open in the parking lot on the way out of the gym -- even though by definition I'm not alone (and am on friendly territory and probably have some pretty serious bruisers right nearby).

And that's without any particular fear -- it's more like the mode I'm in on the strip. Ready to react to any little human movement.


Cashmere - Jan 10, 2005 4:05:51 pm PST #4610 of 10002
Now tagless for your comfort.

Do you pronounce a "g"?

Doesn't Mal pronounce the "g" in Firefly? I seem to recall it as such. But I could be mistaken.

Wildfires, earthquakes, mudslides, torrential rains, big ass rocks. Tell me again about the attractions of living in Southern California.


Beverly - Jan 10, 2005 4:06:44 pm PST #4611 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

It drives me bugfuck when S. wants to stop and chat with someone with the door hanging open in the parking lot on the way out of the gym -- even though by definition I'm not alone (and am on friendly territory and probably have some pretty serious bruisers right nearby).

And that's without any particular fear -- it's more like the mode I'm in on the strip. Ready to react to any little human movement.

YES. And he just doesn't understand it. I get this wounded, exasperated, "What?"


lori - Jan 10, 2005 4:10:19 pm PST #4612 of 10002

Pretty new topographic map of Australia


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2005 4:11:19 pm PST #4613 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I do fumble in my bag, I realise. I am definitely not straight into the car. And I fumble the most leaving krav, because I usually need a parking ticket to get out, and I end up finding that before I sit down. There probably isn't anywhere safer, though, considering.

Tell me again about the attractions of living in Southern California.

I can't imagine enjoying living somewhere it wasn't worth living despite the weather. Made it through hellacious winters in Montreal for that reason, love Jamaica to pieces despite the earthquake/hurricane thing.

Can't quite characterise the area by torrential rains, though, otherwise it wouldn't be such a big deal.


JZ - Jan 10, 2005 4:14:27 pm PST #4614 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

No, I do have an awareness of people around me in public areas that the SO does not have. And he feels no compunction about just talking to random people on the street, and the reason I don't doesn't just have to do with being introverted, it also has to do with being female.

I'm so rushed and slammed at work that I'm not able to do more than intermittently lurk (hoping to have stuff to say later if the conversation hasn't drifted), but it occurred to me that I've known exactly two men with just this same awareness of others around them and wariness about speaking to strangers. Both of them are absurdly Nice Guys who look like threats -- both hit by massive growth spurts in puberty that turned them very tall and very large, and they've both talked about being aware of women's awareness of them from puberty on.

They put a lot of conscious effort into smiling but not holding eye contact, ducking, bowing, slouching, gauging whether any particular woman is going to be more comfortable going in or out of the elevator first or last, having the door held or not, being greeted or being ignored. They're acutely aware of their physical personae, and aware of how odd this awareness is, that it's a sort of freak funhouse mirror image of the hyper-awareness that most of the women in their lives go through the world with.